Good points, Mark. And on that note, let's end this conversation, as it is, and has been from the start (my fault) very much OT.
-Bob --- Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In addition to working with PHP, I am a mail admin. There are lots of > tools out there for combating spam, including lists, called DNSBLs, > that contain the IP addresses of supposed spammers. Some are more > vigilant (or vigilante, depending on your perspective) than others, > but the premise is that if someone sends spam to a bunch of people, > their IP address gets listed, and you can use that list to tag or > refuse mail from those people. > > However your scheme is just plain ridiculous. It is up there with > returning virus laden email to the supposed originator. 80-90% of the > spam you receive is not "from" the person in the From or Reply-to > header. In fact, most likely the originating computer was compromised > by a virus with an SMTP engine, and is sending out emails with > completely forged addresses in the headers. So when you reply back to > the email address in the header, you are sending email either to no > one, because the email address doesn't really exist, or to someone > who has nothing to do with the spam. > > Very few spams I have encountered (other than an occasional 419 scam) > actually expect you to reply back via email. Most use web sites to > maintain contact. I know it makes you feel better to do something > like this, but you'd be better off using a filter to ignore it, or a > tool to keep it out of your inbox. > > The only way to stop spam is to stop people from buying crap from > them. A single purchase can often pay for the entire cost of spamming > millions of people. > > Mark > > --- Gurudatta Raut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- James Keeline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >Imagine what will happen if each one does that to > > spammers. > > > > #) Talk about the above point. > > > > > > > There are a couple of flaws in your plan. The From: > > > and Reply-to: addresses > > > are often faked so they are stolen from someone > > > else. The 10MB replies may go > > > to someone whose email address was simply used by > > the spammer. > > > > #) But not if the spammer expects your reply, their > > frustration is the proof that my plan works > > > > > The other problem is that most accounts are much > > > larger now. My Yahoo-based > > > account is 2 GB so a 10MB is barely noticed. Since > > > it is web mail, it is not > > > downloaded for me until I tell the system to do so. > > > > #) Ya, but spammers Spam hundreds and thousands, > > combined warth can spell their doom > > > > > It must feel good to do something about spammers. > > > However, you need to make > > > sure that you are really affecting the source of the > > > problems and not innocent > > > bystanders. > > > > I usually dont have such time, but if I get a > > particular spam time and again, I try to seal its > > doom. > > > > Any way, U were very inspiring in my good attempt. > > But, I will not rest. We can create a Anti SPAM > > website where such Spammers can be reported or their > > mails just forwarded to it. when 10000 or so spam > > reports are noted that site can unleash warth of bulk > > in their inboxes. > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > http://in.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > > Mark Weinstock > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *************************************** > You can't demand something as a "right" unless you are willing to > fight to death to defend everyone else's right to the same thing. > *************************************** > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > __________________________________ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/HKFolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Community email addresses: Post message: [email protected] Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shortcut URL to this page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/php-list Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/php-list/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
