I think that is like trying to kill an ant with a hammer.. I don't think people should be forced into using a full blown CMS if all they want is a front-end to syslog. I'm just trying to fulfill some requirements from my end-users here at my job and get something out to them asap.
-----Original Message----- From: Jason Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 6:51 PM To: Freeman, Michael Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Claus Lund; php-syslog-ng-support@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Php-syslog-ng-support] Log2rss support? I definitely suggest you look into a CMS (Content Management System) such as plone, XOOPS, phpNuke, etc. These various projects already have a well-developed codebase and probably several modules that can be bent to your needs. I looked briefly at making php-syslog-ng into a XOOPS module about a year and a half ago but got side-tracked. The big advantage of using a CMS is that it would really modularize everything and users would be able to only use the features they like. These products will also have a pretty good authentication and permissioning system which could be useful for limiting which hosts a user could query or other such niceties. Though not rich in time these days, I would be glad to help where I can in such a project. Cheers, /Jason -- You can have my Mac when you pry it from my cold, dead hands. e:[EMAIL PROTECTED] v:514-815-8204 <quote who="Freeman, Michael"> > I'd still be interested in having one centralized location for > managing all the different elements of syslog-ng. You shouldn't > necessarily have to go to different places to do this, for convenience > sake anyways. How it actually gets done I'm not really concerned with > yet, this is more of a requirements gathering phase for me. > > I have a project at my company to replace CiscoWorks RME with Opsware > NAS, and the whole reason I am involved in this php-syslog-ng stuff > now is because NAS didn't have a front-end to syslog, like RME > provided, and now that I have found this tool I have mitigated that > requirement, my next goal is to extend the syslog analyzer functions > to allow people to create event handlers. So it sounds like this > functionality is built-in to syslog-ng already, I'm interested in > wrapping it all into php-syslog-ng, if feasible. > > So the RSS stuff and the event handlers are not necessarily intertwined. > I would separate them so you would have a separate area to build your > filters for RSS feeds, and then another area to build your event > handlers for specific events. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 2:22 PM > To: Freeman, Michael > Cc: Claus Lund; php-syslog-ng-support@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Php-syslog-ng-support] Log2rss support? > > > Something like this might be easier to implement on the back-end > syslog-ng side, and not by hitting the database. What about tools like > swatch or watcher? > > How I see it working is creating a second "destination" in the > syslog-ng config file which sends "pre-filtered" log-output to a file > or socket to be u sed as input by one of these log-watcher programs. > > When the program sees a hit, it can create the "notify" event which > could easily be configured as an event to add to an RSS feed. > > If you are dead-set on using the database for this, then you are not > going to have "real-time" stream processing as in the above case. You > will likely be running a periodic query on the database and processing > that output. > > But in either case, what you are after is some kind of alerter service. > At present, php-syslog-ng is nothing more than a log-presentation > service. The alerter stuff can be added on but would be entirely > separate from the front end. It would be just another consumer of the > syslog-ng database. > > /Jason > > > -- > You can have my Mac when you pry it from my cold, dead hands. > e:[EMAIL PROTECTED] v:514-815-8204 > > > <quote who="Freeman, Michael"> > >> Yeah, my idea was to allow the user to build the type of filter they >> wanted and underneath the hood it would make a SQL query to the DB >> grabbing that stuff and generating the RSS. I'm not sure how >> sophisticated my first attempt would be, but I might make a small >> release and see what people think and if they find it useful, add >> some > >> of the additional things. The whole reason behind me wanting to do >> this is I think while a web front end to syslog is great, it still >> requires someone to look at it. I for one use RSS frequently and >> always have an aggregator application open on one of my screens so it >> is easy for me to look over and take notice of things I actually care >> about, based on the filter/ruleset I defined for my feed. >> >> One could take this concept even further and extend the php-syslog-ng >> interface to allow users to create rules and event handlers that >> would > >> be executed by the syslog-ng daemon itself. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Claus Lund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:43 AM >> To: Freeman, Michael >> Subject: Re: [Php-syslog-ng-support] Log2rss support? >> >> >> >> An RSS feed may be useful in some situations ... but I don't know how >> well it would work/useful it would be in very "chatty environments"? >> Maybe if you can do some filtering on what you subscribe to then it >> could be used for alerting on certain situations that you want to >> make > >> sure you catch. >> >> -Claus >> >> >> >> On 7/6/06, Freeman, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> Is anyone else besides myself interested in getting RSS feeds from >>> php-syslog-ng? 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