I really like where the documentation pages have gone. In particular I like how bootstrap centers the content rather than flooding the full width of my monitor with content. For what it's worth, I'm personally not crazy about drop-downs as they always make me feel like I'm dealing with some hacky 1990s javascript menu; I generally prefer CSS-styled hyperlinks to form-elements-as-navigation.
On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Paul Dragoonis <dragoo...@gmail.com> wrote: > The content in the community nav item drop menu is very good. it gives a > nice overview of everything that's going on. > > We need to think how we can retain this, while improving the top menu. > > > On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Levi Morrison <morrison.l...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> I will begin implementing pieces of twitter bootstrap for responsive >> design. >> >> I still strongly disagree with having a dropdown menu -- we need input >> from other developers on this, please! >> >> On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Paul Dragoonis <dragoo...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Levi, >>> >>> Thanks for the email, I didn't bother consolidating all my work into an >>> email like this. >>> >>> I like the simpler header. I like the new breadcrumb format it solved the >>> issue for prev/next buttons. >>> >>> We still need to give users a dropdown menu. I'd like to use twitter >>> bootstrap header menu so we get easy dropdowns. >>> >>> The main reason for this is we can use bootstrap-responsive.css and our >>> header will become mobile/tablet responsive without needing to code >>> anything, they can do all the heavy lifting for us. I'm not sure if you're >>> experience with bootstrap but I am so it' a natural choice. >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 12:25 AM, Levi Morrison <le...@php.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear list, >>>> >>>> I have been reviewing a lot of the feedback we have from UserVoice. This >>>> as been valuable in identifying some serious problems we have with our beta >>>> website. Thanks to Peter Cowburn, Paul Dragoonis and anyone else involved >>>> for getting UserVoice up and running. >>>> >>>> I have some major updates pending to beta PHP.net that address many of >>>> the feedback items. I have not yet pushed because it creates some new >>>> problems and I don't want feedback from users on it just yet since I know >>>> what some of the big issues are. >>>> >>>> Some highlights and lowlights: >>>> >>>> I stuck the header to the top of the screen at all times. This required >>>> a few changes such as shrinking its overal vertical size. I also went ahead >>>> and gave it the dark-grey color of the dropdown menu and the footer. >>>> >>>> The dropdown menu now interacts strangely if you've scrolled. This can >>>> be fixable, but there has been a lot of feedback on the dropdown menu that >>>> is hard to fix. I vote we remove the dropdown menu. We don't have one >>>> currently and so it isn't a usability regression if we remove it. If we can >>>> work a better implementation then we can add it back in. This would >>>> possibly >>>> mean we need to add an item or two to the main navigation but I'm fine with >>>> that. >>>> >>>> I moved the "parent" navigation items out of the layout-menu (on the >>>> left) and into a breadcrumbs bar. This came from a suggestion from the >>>> uservoice feedback and I think it works really well. This also strengthens >>>> the layout-menu because it's more clear what the menu is for: related >>>> functions. >>>> I reduced the margins on many items. This one was painful to me but I >>>> really had to choose between shrinking the margins and shrinking the base >>>> font-size which I will not do. Thus I gave in and removed some of the >>>> whitespace. This means some items that were originally separated by >>>> whitespace might need something else to help separate them (such as a >>>> border). >>>> The layout-menu is now grey instead of purple. Combined with the dark >>>> header across the page this really gives the page more variety in color and >>>> contrast. A very common piece of feedback was the lack of color, excess >>>> whitespace and lacking contrast. >>>> The homepage looks worse than ever. Not quite sure what to do about it; >>>> I'll think about it over the next day or so. >>>> >>>> If you have ideas on how to fix any of these problems please let me >>>> know. There are also a few minor problems such as the PHP logo now being >>>> barely visible that I need to touch up before I push these changes; I don't >>>> want a bunch of UserVoice feedback saying the PHP logo is hard to see. >>>> >>>> The changes can be viewed at http://leviathon.homenet.org/ when my >>>> server is up -- it's hit and miss right now because of active development. >>>> You can find a small gallery of screenshots that illustrate these changes >>>> at >>>> http://imgur.com/a/4ZoWo#0 >>>> >>>> If you absolutely hate these changes, please let me know that as well; >>>> I'm open to feedback both good and ill. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Levi Morrison >>> >>> >> > -- PHP Webmaster List Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
