I think most of the system would include standalone "zh" because I had seen a lot of page direct me to Simplified Chinese. However, this is the first time I send letter to discuss with system administrator.
Also, because China keep bashing on Taiwan in the International Communities, most of the time our voice can not publish. For example, the webside of archlinux still write Taiwan is the province of China ( https://www.archlinux.org/download/ ). Some of Taiwanese write letters for protesting but them were also ignored. >>> Would you mind filing a bug report on https://bugs.php.net and >>> classify it as "Website problem" and include this information we have >>> been discussing? Not at all, I would be glad if this problem can be solved. Should I fill a bug report by myself? If yes, do you mind I fill in all of the letter what we discussed or only the part of point out problem? Sincerely, Ray. 2013/12/5 Hannes Magnusson <[email protected]> > That strikes me as very strange if you got Simplified Chinese using IE > and that accept language header. > > Also if it is common for various countries that speak a form of > Chinese to also include standalone "zh" in their accept language > headers, then we have a problem. > But if that is true, then I am very confused why this is the first > time I've heard of it being a problem. > > Would you mind filing a bug report on https://bugs.php.net and > classify it as "Website problem" and include this information we have > been discussing? > > -Hannes > > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Ray Wang <[email protected]> wrote: > > I use this page(http://tw1.php.net/function.strtok) for testing and > > wiresharp for capturing header. > > All of the testing are under windows 7. Some of the page tested an > private > > browsing mode > > for preventing the effect of cookie. > > > > IE 11 > > Accept-Language: zh-TW\r\n > > > > FF 25.0.1(private browsing) > > Accept-Language: zh-tw,zh;q=0.8,en-us;q=0.5,en;q=0.3\r\n > > > > chrome 31.0.1650.57 (private browsing) > > Accept-Language: zh-TW,zh;q=0.8,en-US;q=0.6,en;q=0.4\r\n > > > > opera 18.0.1284.49 > > Accept-Language: zh-TW,zh;q=0.8,en-US;q=0.6,en;q=0.4\r\n > > > > However, all of the browsers was directed to Simplified Chinese(even if > IE > > 11 > > sent "zh-TW" only). > > I think if I chosen the Traditional Chinese at window, browser would send > > both "zh" and "zh-tw". > > > > > > > > 2013/12/5 Hannes Magnusson <[email protected]> > >> > >> That is a very good pseudo code for how it works. > >> > >> What I don't understand is why you are sending accept language headers > >> for 'zh' when it clearly is not a Taiwanese language code. > >> Is this a normal accept header that is sent on multiple of browsers > >> you have tested on multiple systems? > >> > >> > >> -Hannes > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Ray Wang <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > I apology that misusing the word of "set default". > >> > This make you misunderstand what I mean. > >> > My English is so bad, sorry about that. > >> > > >> > if(isset($_cookie('selectedLanguage')))//if the user had chosen it > >> > language > >> > last time > >> > { > >> > //php.net would use the selected language saved in cookie > >> > } > >> > else if("zh" or "zh-cn" exist in ACCEPT_LANGUAGE)//if there is no > value > >> > existing in cookie > >> > { > >> > //php.net would use Simplified Chinese for this user > >> > } > >> > . > >> > . > >> > . > >> > else > >> > { > >> > //php.net would use English for this user > >> > } > >> > > >> > I think this is the mechanism that choosing language for a user. > >> > What I ask is whether if you can make this line > >> > > >> > else if("zh" or "zh-cn" exist in ACCEPT_LANGUAGE) > >> > { > >> > //php.net would use Simplified Chinese for this user > >> > } > >> > > >> > to delete the option of "zh" and become > >> > > >> > else if("zh-cn" exist in ACCEPT_LANGUAGE) > >> > { > >> > //php.net would use Simplified Chinese for this user > >> > } > >> > > >> > I apology for misusage of words "set default" and the mechanism of > >> > cookie of > >> > language is work fine. > >> > > >> > Sincerely, Ray. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > 2013/12/5 Hannes Magnusson <[email protected]> > >> >> > >> >> We do not set the default language to Simplified Chinese for > Taiwanese. > >> >> > >> >> Setting the default language requires you to do so, either implicitly > >> >> by accept headers, or explicitly by click on simplified Chinese links > >> >> as I previously explained. > >> >> > >> >> This has been the case for the last 12+ years. Noone has ever > >> >> complained before so I believe you set this explicitly, although you > >> >> may not have realized it. > >> >> > >> >> I am trying to help you and explain this to you, but you need to > >> >> answer my questions fully. > >> >> > >> >> -Hannes > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:36 AM, Ray Wang <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > I just want php.net not setting the default language as Simplified > >> >> > Chinese > >> >> > for Taiwanese. > >> >> > zh-tw and zh-cn are not the same. Not only the words, but also > these > >> >> > are > >> >> > two > >> >> > different conutry. > >> >> > Can you help us? > >> >> > > >> >> > Sincerely, Ray. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > 2013/12/4 Hannes Magnusson <[email protected]> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> And you have no cookies in your browser for the php.net domain? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -Hannes > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Ray Wang <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> >> > The accept-Language got from wireshark is as follow: > >> >> >> > Accept-Language: zh-tw,zh;q=0.8,en-us;q=0.5,en;q=0.3\r\n > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > If I look up "strtok", it would direct me to this link. > >> >> >> > http://tw2.php.net/strtok > >> >> >> > or > >> >> >> > http://tw1.php.net/strtok > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Sincerely, Ray. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > 2013/12/4 Hannes Magnusson <[email protected]> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I should have been more explicit, sorry. > >> >> >> >> When I said "Chinese", I meant "Simplified Chinese" (zh-cn). > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> If your browser sends ACCEPT_LANGUAGE language header with the > >> >> >> >> value > >> >> >> >> "zh", or "zh-cn" we will reply with Simplified Chinese. > >> >> >> >> If you however send zh-anything-else then we reply with > English. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> The only other way to automatically receive Simplified Chinese > is > >> >> >> >> like > >> >> >> >> I previously explained. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> If you still maintain that this is a bug in our system, please > >> >> >> >> send > >> >> >> >> me > >> >> >> >> your php.net cookies (if any), and your browsers request > headers > >> >> >> >> (especially the ACCEPT_LANGUAGE) header. > >> >> >> >> If you can tell which mirror you are using (e.g. the full url > of > >> >> >> >> your > >> >> >> >> request) that would be helpful. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> -Hannes > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Ray Wang <[email protected]> > >> >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > First of all, thanks for your reply. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > In Taiwan, we use Traditional Chinese(zh-tw) instead of > >> >> >> >> > Simplified > >> >> >> >> > Chinese(zh-cn). > >> >> >> >> > These are very different. Also, It make me very uncomfortable > >> >> >> >> > because > >> >> >> >> > of > >> >> >> >> > the > >> >> >> >> > relation between China and Taiwan. > >> >> >> >> > We are different country. Moreover, China always wants to > >> >> >> >> > conquer > >> >> >> >> > Taiwan. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > For example, if I set up a webside using Russian as default > >> >> >> >> > language > >> >> >> >> > for > >> >> >> >> > American, it would also make > >> >> >> >> > you angry? right? > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Therefore, can you change the default language to be English > >> >> >> >> > instead > >> >> >> >> > of > >> >> >> >> > Simplified Chinese for Taiwanese? > >> >> >> >> > Also, I would be very glad if there is something I can help. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Sincerely, Ray. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > 2013/12/4 Hannes Magnusson <[email protected]> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Ray Wang <[email protected] > > > >> >> >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > Today, when I go in to php.net, I found that the language > >> >> >> >> >> > is change to Simplified Chinese. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > BUT!! I am a Taiwanese. We DO NOT belong to China > >> >> >> >> >> > and we DO NOT use Simplified Chinese. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> > Please change the language to English automatically for > >> >> >> >> >> > each Taiwanese. Thanks. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> There are 4 ways you can see Chinese version > "automatically": > >> >> >> >> >> - Your browser settings prioritize Chinese content over > >> >> >> >> >> English > >> >> >> >> >> - The mirror you used has Chinese configured as default > >> >> >> >> >> language > >> >> >> >> >> - The search results you "Googled" for where to the Chinese > >> >> >> >> >> translation > >> >> >> >> >> - Your last accessed manual page was a Chinese translation > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> You can of course change the language on all the manual > pages > >> >> >> >> >> by > >> >> >> >> >> selecting the appropriate language in the top-right language > >> >> >> >> >> selection > >> >> >> >> >> box. > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> -Hannes > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >
