Edit report at https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=66371&edit=1

 ID:                 66371
 Comment by:         [email protected]
 Reported by:        TygerGilbert at USAWebAdv dot com
 Summary:            JavaScript (I think) causing error on all pages
 Status:             Re-Opened
 Type:               Bug
 Package:            Website problem
 Operating System:   WinXP w/IE-8
 PHP Version:        Irrelevant
 Assigned To:        googleguy
 Block user comment: N
 Private report:     N

 New Comment:

Perhaps I'm just incredibly biased, but I see no reason to fix the CSS 
'problems'. The script issue is certainly valid as it absolutely prevents you 
from using the site. However, a sub-optimal browsing experience is exactly what 
you are asking for by using IE 8 anyway.

I see no reason to spend time working on this. If someone else does feel like 
spending time on it, that's okay. When doing so, please preserve and even 
enhance the mobile first design as it actually made things much easier than the 
desktop first design I previously attempted.


Previous Comments:
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[2014-01-15 05:49:28] [email protected]

Looks like cmbecker69 at gmx dot de analyzes was dead on, its just missing the 
@media queries for > 670px (and other minor irrelevant pixel-perfect issues)

If someone knows of IE8 @media workarounds, that would be awesome

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[2014-01-15 02:45:13] TygerGilbert at USAWebAdv dot com

I understand, Bjori. And I appreciate your efforts to solve this. I uploaded 
the screenshot to ImageBin.org at your suggestion. It appears at:
http://imagebin.org/286804

At least I am not the only one who has seen this, so we know it exists, even if 
others are having trouble replicating it.

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[2014-01-15 02:12:42] [email protected]

Could you upload the screenshot to http://imagebin.org or something along that 
lines?

And yes, I've no clue what the problem is and am purely guessing.
I do not have access to Windows machine, XP or newer, or any version of IE.. so 
I'm working blind here :)

I've tried to talk to the Windows guys I know, but they've got no clue either 
and are having issues getting Windows XP and IE8 to reproduce the issue :(

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[2014-01-15 00:44:01] TygerGilbert at USAWebAdv dot com

It sounds like you guys are guessing and don't have a clue as to what is 
actually causing this error, or how to fix it. I have a screen shot of the bad 
formatting, but this form doesn't seem to have a field to upload it or any 
other way to attach it, so I'm not sure what to do with it. Bjori, I understand 
your attitude about not spending anymore time on this. It makes sense. 

Regrettably, I'm hearing "The equipment and programs you use (and you, 
yourself) are too old, so your problems don't matter to the rest of us," or 
something similar all too often. Much of the world, particularly the younger 
"leading-edge" individuals, believes this way. You have to, or someone else 
will beat you to the finish line. And those of us in the back of the pack 
eventually get totally disqualified if we can't keep up or take too long even 
getting to the finish line. That's reality, and I accept it. I have to. I do 
appreciate everyone's time and efforts to solve this. Thanks! Just remember me 
decades from now (or sooner) when you are faced with similar difficulties, as 
you likely will.

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[2014-01-15 00:07:47] [email protected]

Ok. I looked it up.. IE8 is as old as say FireFox 3.6.28, so the importance of 
supporting it is in the "if it works, it works - if not, doesn't matter" class.
I'm sure someone has a workaround for the @media not working on IE8 issue.

As long as that does not impact anything at all then we can apply that 
workaround I guess.

When you go to php.net for the first time without cache... Is that the same 
error as when you click a link, or hit refresh?

This could be a issue with your localStorage, as we ship a lot lot lot of data 
to your browser for local storage the first time you come to php.net.
Then subsequent pages and refreshes try to short-circuit that request and use 
your browsers localStorage... that seems like a likely candidate for problems 
in very old browsers.

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