We won't be serving you with any stupid legal mumble jumble. We also don't care if your website/documentation looks familiar/the same.
Just don't try to impersonate us and all is fine. (this is as official 'go-ahead' as you can get :)) -Hannes On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Daniel A.C. Martin <php-se...@dacm.org> wrote: > Hello Hannes, > > First of all, thank you for the response. > > The website I'm talking about producing for my project's documentation > will look very similar to PHP.net. (Although I will try to make it clear > that it isn't actually PHP.net through explicit notices and an altered > colour scheme.) So what I'm proposing might go beyond what Facebook and > phpsysinfo did. (Please note that I'm ignorant as to how much content > they used.) > > If at all possible I'd like to avoid doing a lot of work on a website > only to end up on the wrong end of a cease and desist order and having > to take it down. Also, I would hate to offend anyone; we're all > producing free software after all. > > Is there any way that I could obtain explicit permission for this, or is > that impossible due to the the copyright being held by multiple > individuals? Is this even the correct channel for such an enquiry? > > Best regards, > > > Daniel Martin. > > On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 10:48 -0800, Hannes Magnusson wrote: >> I have a vague memories of phpsysinfo or some project like that >> duplicating our website graphics for its website and output. >> That did not go well down peoples throats. >> >> However, when facebook did the same thing, and even removed our >> copyright, people don't seem to care at all about it. >> >> As long as you keep the copyright notice I think you are fine - but INAL. >> >> -Hannes >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 4:33 AM, Daniel A.C. Martin <php-se...@dacm.org> >> wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > This e-mail is a request for special permission to use some of the >> > content from PHP.net on another website, specifically a website for a >> > new, MIT licensed, PHP library. >> > >> > >> > Rationale >> > ========= >> > >> > I have written a small PHP library containing data structures which are >> > designed to be easily interchangeable with the official ones provided by >> > the SPL. >> > >> > Documentation is always important for software libraries but in this >> > case it is also desirable to achieve as much symmetry as possible >> > between my library's documentation and the official documentation for >> > the SPL data structures (PHP.net). In this way users of both sets of >> > data structures can more easily switch between the two, reinforcing in >> > their minds that the APIs are, for the most part, compatible. >> > >> > To this end I have produced my documentation in the DocBook superset >> > format used by the PHP project's PhD program. (In fact, I wrote a >> > collection of scripts to build the PhD source from a set of XML files >> > which strictly define the API. There's a small chance it may be of use >> > to extension writers one day.) >> > >> > It has since come to my attention that the 'php' output from PhD is not >> > a complete website and cannot function without files from PHP.net. Also, >> > whilst PhD and its output is free, the same is not true for those >> > PHP.net files. >> > >> > >> > My intentions >> > ============= >> > >> > It is my intention to take the content from PHP.net and strip it down to >> > a small subset capable of making the PhD generated manual usable. This >> > would include the search and comment functionality as well as some of >> > the CSS files. >> > >> > I would then swap out the logo for my own, change some of the colours, >> > notably the blue navigation bar (probably to green), and include a >> > notice at the bottom of the page stating that the project is NOT >> > officially endorsed by the PHP project. >> > >> > The copyright notice at the bottom could be changed to read something >> > like: >> > Copyright © 2015 Daniel Martin, 2001-2015 The PHP Group >> > >> > The copyright page itself could state that the website files, besides >> > the manual, are copyright The PHP Group with all rights reserved. >> > >> > I understand that the content of PHP.net is copyrighted with all rights >> > reserved and so ask for special license (to modify and distribute >> > modified versions) to be granted in this case. Is this something you >> > would consider? Thanks in advance for your time. >> > >> > Best wishes, >> > >> > >> > Daniel Martin. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > PHP Webmaster List Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >> > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> > > > -- PHP Webmaster List Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
