php-windows Digest 5 May 2007 05:49:02 -0000 Issue 3217
Topics (messages 27805 through 27825):
automatic-click flash?
27805 by: Gustav Wiberg
27806 by: Stut
27817 by: Bill Bolte
27818 by: Gustav Wiberg
Re: Reload/refresh web page
27807 by: Jody Williams
27808 by: Alf Stockton
27809 by: Jody Williams
27810 by: Kevin Smith
27811 by: Alf Stockton
27812 by: Alf Stockton
27813 by: Bill Bolte
27814 by: Alf Stockton
27815 by: Bill Bolte
27816 by: Kevin Smith
27819 by: Alf Stockton
27820 by: Bill Bolte
27821 by: Alf Stockton
27822 by: Aleksandar Vojnovic
27823 by: Bill Bolte
27824 by: Bill Bolte
ListBox
27825 by: sam rumaizan
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Hi there!
I searched the Internet about "Click to activate this control"... Why it is
viewd in IE...
"Q. Why do I see "Click to activate this control."?
Microsoft® changed the way ActiveX controls behave so Dynamic HTML (DHTML)
events related to user interaction, such as onblur and onclick, are
automatically blocked. To activate an interactive control, either click it or
use the TAB key to set focus on it and then press the SPACEBAR or the ENTER
key. Interactive controls loaded from external script files immediately respond
to user interaction and do not need to be activated.
Basically, you now need to click the control to "approve" it before the Flash
and navigation buttons will work."
and after this reading,... I've been thinking.
Is it possible to make an automatic click in Javascript to an embedded
flash-object?
/Gustav
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Gustav Wiberg wrote:
Hi there!
I searched the Internet about "Click to activate this control"... Why it is viewd in IE...
"Q. Why do I see "Click to activate this control."?
Microsoft® changed the way ActiveX controls behave so Dynamic HTML (DHTML)
events related to user interaction, such as onblur and onclick, are
automatically blocked. To activate an interactive control, either click it or
use the TAB key to set focus on it and then press the SPACEBAR or the ENTER
key. Interactive controls loaded from external script files immediately respond
to user interaction and do not need to be activated.
Basically, you now need to click the control to "approve" it before the Flash and navigation buttons will work."
and after this reading,... I've been thinking.
Is it possible to make an automatic click in Javascript to an embedded
flash-object?
Keep searching, there are several solutions to this problem out there.
And it's worth noting that it's not for security reasons, it's because
they would be breaching a patent if it was automatically enabled.
-Stut
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Here's what we do...
In the head of the html/php file(s):
<!--[if IE]>
<script type="text/javascript" src="flash_fix.js"
defer="defer"></script>
<![endif]-->
And in that JavaScript file goes:
var objects = document.getElementsByTagName("object");
for (var i=0; i<objects.length; i++)
objects[i].outerHTML = objects[i].outerHTML;
There are other ways out there, some will validate better, if you need
(x)html validation. But those JavaScript methods result in an extremely
large JavaScript file/Section to be loaded. This is nice and short.
Bill
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From: Gustav Wiberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 4:06 AM
To: 'php windows' ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Subject: [PHP-WIN] automatic-click flash?
Hi there!
I searched the Internet about "Click to activate this control"... Why it
is viewd in IE...
"Q. Why do I see "Click to activate this control."?
Microsoft(r) changed the way ActiveX controls behave so Dynamic HTML
(DHTML) events related to user interaction, such as onblur and onclick,
are automatically blocked. To activate an interactive control, either
click it or use the TAB key to set focus on it and then press the
SPACEBAR or the ENTER key. Interactive controls loaded from external
script files immediately respond to user interaction and do not need to
be activated.
Basically, you now need to click the control to "approve" it before the
Flash and navigation buttons will work."
and after this reading,... I've been thinking.
Is it possible to make an automatic click in Javascript to an embedded
flash-object?
/Gustav
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Hi there!
Thanx you all for your solutions!
/Gustav
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From: Bill Bolte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 4:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PHP-WIN] automatic-click flash?
Here's what we do...
In the head of the html/php file(s):
<!--[if IE]>
<script type="text/javascript" src="flash_fix.js"
defer="defer"></script>
<![endif]-->
And in that JavaScript file goes:
var objects = document.getElementsByTagName("object");
for (var i=0; i<objects.length; i++)
objects[i].outerHTML = objects[i].outerHTML;
There are other ways out there, some will validate better, if you need
(x)html validation. But those JavaScript methods result in an extremely
large JavaScript file/Section to be loaded. This is nice and short.
Bill
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From: Gustav Wiberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 4:06 AM
To: 'php windows' ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Subject: [PHP-WIN] automatic-click flash?
Hi there!
I searched the Internet about "Click to activate this control"... Why it
is viewd in IE...
"Q. Why do I see "Click to activate this control."?
Microsoft(r) changed the way ActiveX controls behave so Dynamic HTML
(DHTML) events related to user interaction, such as onblur and onclick,
are automatically blocked. To activate an interactive control, either
click it or use the TAB key to set focus on it and then press the
SPACEBAR or the ENTER key. Interactive controls loaded from external
script files immediately respond to user interaction and do not need to
be activated.
Basically, you now need to click the control to "approve" it before the
Flash and navigation buttons will work."
and after this reading,... I've been thinking.
Is it possible to make an automatic click in Javascript to an embedded
flash-object?
/Gustav
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what about using:
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="600">
On 5/4/07, Alf Stockton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I need to add some coding to a web page that forces a reload from the
server every time the page loads, no matter where the user came from.
I already have the following meta tags but that does not do what is
required.
<meta http-equiv="cache-control" content="no-cache">
<meta http-equiv="expires" content="Mon, 22 Jul 2000 11:12:01 GMT"
I also cannot use the full URL, as has been recommendedon the web, as
these pages could be at various of my users branches and they could well
have their own URLs.
ie No standard URL available.
My first thought was to add refresh within a onload but this would be
daft as one would end up in a permanent loop.
Please make suggestions.
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Jody Williams wrote:
what about using:
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="600">
That would refresh after 600 seconds. Not quite what I want. I want to
refresh on reload but as I said in my original email:-
My first thought was to add refresh within a onload but this would be
daft as one would end up in a permanent loop.
but thank you for trying.
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I have seen references to using the "refresh" without the content.
could this be incorporated into an onload event?
On 5/4/07, Alf Stockton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Jody Williams wrote:
> what about using:
> <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="600">
>
That would refresh after 600 seconds. Not quite what I want. I want to
refresh on reload but as I said in my original email:-
>> My first thought was to add refresh within a onload but this would be
>> daft as one would end up in a permanent loop.
but thank you for trying.
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// The argument to the location.reload function determines
// if the browser should retrieve the document from the
// web-server. In this example all we need to do is cause
// the JavaScript block in the document body to be
// re-evaluated. If we needed to pull the document from
// the web-server again (such as where the document contents
// change dynamically) we would pass the argument as 'true'.
//
<body onload="window.location.reload( false);">
Jody Williams wrote:
I have seen references to using the "refresh" without the content.
could this be incorporated into an onload event?
On 5/4/07, Alf Stockton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Jody Williams wrote:
> what about using:
> <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="600">
>
That would refresh after 600 seconds. Not quite what I want. I want to
refresh on reload but as I said in my original email:-
>> My first thought was to add refresh within a onload but this would be
>> daft as one would end up in a permanent loop.
but thank you for trying.
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Jody Williams wrote:
I have seen references to using the "refresh" without the content.
could this be incorporated into an onload event?
www.html-reference.com says that <meta http-equiv="refresh" :-
Indicates the document displays for a specified amount of time before
switching to a new URL. The full absolute URL must be specified.
Therefore that is not on.>
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Kevin Smith wrote:
// The argument to the location.reload function determines
// if the browser should retrieve the document from the
// web-server. In this example all we need to do is cause
// the JavaScript block in the document body to be
// re-evaluated. If we needed to pull the document from
// the web-server again (such as where the document contents
// change dynamically) we would pass the argument as 'true'.
//
<body onload="window.location.reload( false);">
Try that with true setting and you end up in the loop I spoke of in my
original email
and yes the page I want reloaded is dynamic and every time it displays I
want it to be retrieved from the server, but how?
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Regards,
Alf Stockton www.stockton.co.za
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Can we ask why you need a reload every time? Maybe there's a better
approach?
But, if you need to reload the first time someone hit's a page, add a
querystring value to the url and track it. If the value isn't there (
if(!isset($_GET['reload'])){// do a reload} ), then do a header:
location call. Otherwise, it's the second time to the page, so let it
load...
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From: Alf Stockton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 3:51 AM
To: php windows
Subject: [PHP-WIN] Reload/refresh web page
I need to add some coding to a web page that forces a reload from the
server every time the page loads, no matter where the user came from.
I already have the following meta tags but that does not do what is
required.
<meta http-equiv="cache-control" content="no-cache">
<meta http-equiv="expires" content="Mon, 22 Jul 2000 11:12:01 GMT"
I also cannot use the full URL, as has been recommendedon the web, as
these pages could be at various of my users branches and they could well
have their own URLs.
ie No standard URL available.
My first thought was to add refresh within a onload but this would be
daft as one would end up in a permanent loop.
Please make suggestions.
--
Regards,
Alf Stockton www.stockton.co.za
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Bill Bolte wrote:
Can we ask why you need a reload every time? Maybe there's a better
approach?
The page I want reloaded is dynamic and every time it displays I want it
to be retrieved from the server, but how? If you can make another
suggestion I would be happy to hear it.
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Why isn't it being retrieved the first time the page is called?
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From: Alf Stockton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 9:03 AM
To: php windows
Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Reload/refresh web page
Bill Bolte wrote:
> Can we ask why you need a reload every time? Maybe there's a better
> approach?
>
The page I want reloaded is dynamic and every time it displays I want it
to be retrieved from the server, but how? If you can make another
suggestion I would be happy to hear it.
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Alf Stockton www.stockton.co.za
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I'll go with Bill's suggestion. Just track whether the page has already
been loaded.
Bill Bolte wrote:
Can we ask why you need a reload every time? Maybe there's a better
approach?
But, if you need to reload the first time someone hit's a page, add a
querystring value to the url and track it. If the value isn't there (
if(!isset($_GET['reload'])){// do a reload} ), then do a header:
location call. Otherwise, it's the second time to the page, so let it
load...
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From: Alf Stockton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 3:51 AM
To: php windows
Subject: [PHP-WIN] Reload/refresh web page
I need to add some coding to a web page that forces a reload from the
server every time the page loads, no matter where the user came from.
I already have the following meta tags but that does not do what is
required.
<meta http-equiv="cache-control" content="no-cache">
<meta http-equiv="expires" content="Mon, 22 Jul 2000 11:12:01 GMT"
I also cannot use the full URL, as has been recommendedon the web, as
these pages could be at various of my users branches and they could well
have their own URLs.
ie No standard URL available.
My first thought was to add refresh within a onload but this would be
daft as one would end up in a permanent loop.
Please make suggestions.
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Bill Bolte wrote:
Why isn't it being retrieved the first time the page is called?
It is but the page I need to reload is a dynamic page that may be used
as a menu to call another php that would be used to update a database
contents of which were displayed on the original page and on return to
the dynamic page I want this new data to be included.
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Regards,
Alf Stockton www.stockton.co.za
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Aaah, so it's a caching issue then. Is that particular content using
PHP's caching mechanism or is it simply the browser's cache settings
mucking things up?
AJAX techniques run into the browser cache issue all the time (not that
your doing anything with AJAX here). One way to get around this is by
putting a random value in the querystring when calling a script by and
HTTP JavaScript call. Maybe by borrowing this concept and put a random
value in the querystring (that servers no purpose) will fool the browser
and load the new content.
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From: Alf Stockton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 10:02 AM
To: php windows
Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Reload/refresh web page
Bill Bolte wrote:
> Why isn't it being retrieved the first time the page is called?
>
It is but the page I need to reload is a dynamic page that may be used
as a menu to call another php that would be used to update a database
contents of which were displayed on the original page and on return to
the dynamic page I want this new data to be included.
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Bill Bolte wrote:
Aaah, so it's a caching issue then. Is that particular content using
PHP's caching mechanism or is it simply the browser's cache settings
mucking things up?
You are correct, it is the broser, and I have no control over which
browser they are using or how that browser is configured.
>
AJAX techniques run into the browser cache issue all the time (not that
your doing anything with AJAX here). One way to get around this is by
putting a random value in the querystring when calling a script by and
HTTP JavaScript call. Maybe by borrowing this concept and put a random
value in the querystring (that servers no purpose) will fool the browser
and load the new content.
Please tell me more. An example would be good, if you could.
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If you are allready using ajax, then don't request the page with get
paramater but using POST. The script you are calling must have headers
set to expire immidiatly ala
<?php
header('Cache-Control: max-age=0, must-revalidate');
?>
Bill Bolte wrote:
Aaah, so it's a caching issue then. Is that particular content using
PHP's caching mechanism or is it simply the browser's cache settings
mucking things up?
AJAX techniques run into the browser cache issue all the time (not that
your doing anything with AJAX here). One way to get around this is by
putting a random value in the querystring when calling a script by and
HTTP JavaScript call. Maybe by borrowing this concept and put a random
value in the querystring (that servers no purpose) will fool the browser
and load the new content.
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From: Alf Stockton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 10:02 AM
To: php windows
Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Reload/refresh web page
Bill Bolte wrote:
Why isn't it being retrieved the first time the page is called?
It is but the page I need to reload is a dynamic page that may be used
as a menu to call another php that would be used to update a database
contents of which were displayed on the original page and on return to
the dynamic page I want this new data to be included.
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Do a search with AJAX CACHE ISSUE. There are tons of links and it seems
to be directed mostly at Internet Explorer.
At it simplest, when your user is getting sent back to the page to view,
make sure the URL has an extra value in the querystring (if you're
passing stuff back already) such as:
http://www.somesite.com/originalpage.php?random=nco8agoafnvpqfq4iu
You can generate an random value pretty easily - don't have any code
right in front of me at the moment.
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From: Alf Stockton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 10:21 AM
Cc: php windows
Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Reload/refresh web page
Bill Bolte wrote:
> Aaah, so it's a caching issue then. Is that particular content using
> PHP's caching mechanism or is it simply the browser's cache settings
> mucking things up?
>
You are correct, it is the broser, and I have no control over which
browser they are using or how that browser is configured.
>
> AJAX techniques run into the browser cache issue all the time (not
that
> your doing anything with AJAX here). One way to get around this is by
> putting a random value in the querystring when calling a script by and
> HTTP JavaScript call. Maybe by borrowing this concept and put a random
> value in the querystring (that servers no purpose) will fool the
browser
> and load the new content.
>
Please tell me more. An example would be good, if you could.
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From: Juan Ignacio Borda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 10:28 AM
To: Bill Bolte
Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Reload/refresh web page
ahhah i'm a cache administrator as well as php developer there is no
easy solution to avoid caching either in client or in proxys (because we
can twist rules to caching you up) but there are some headers you can
add to php pages that prevent pages to being cached
header("Last-Modified: ".gmdate("D, d M Y H:i:s")." GMT");
header("Expires: Mon, 19 Mar 1999 08:00:00 GMT");
header("Cache-Control: no-cache, must-revalidate");
header("Pragma: no-cache");
Aaah, so it's a caching issue then. Is that particular content
using
PHP's caching mechanism or is it simply the browser's cache
settings
mucking things up?
AJAX techniques run into the browser cache issue all the time
(not that
your doing anything with AJAX here). One way to get around this
is by
putting a random value in the querystring when calling a script
by and
HTTP JavaScript call. Maybe by borrowing this concept and put a
random
value in the querystring (that servers no purpose) will fool the
browser
and load the new content.
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From: Alf Stockton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 10:02 AM
To: php windows
Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Reload/refresh web page
Bill Bolte wrote:
Why isn't it being retrieved the first time the page is
called?
It is but the page I need to reload is a dynamic page that may
be used
as a menu to call another php that would be used to update a
database
contents of which were displayed on the original page and on
return to
the dynamic page I want this new data to be included.
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The code is fine. But I have one problem, when the ListBox display the data it
gives me extra empty lines. How can I get rid of these lines?
< -------- ListBox Code
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------->
echo"<table border='1' cellspacing='1' cellpadding='3' bordercolor=
'CDCB98'>";
echo'<form name="myform" method="post" action="sfd.php">';
$result = mysql_query('select * from lo_data');
echo"<tr bgcolor='CDCB98'>";
echo "<td>" ;
echo"<select NAME='Cat' onchange='resubmit()'>";
echo"<option value='NULL'>Select Search Item</option>";
$i=0;
while ($line = mysql_fetch_array($result, MYSQL_ASSOC)) {
foreach ($line as $col) {
$field=mysql_field_name($result,$i);
$array[$field] = $col;
echo"<OPTION value='$field'";
echo ">$field</OPTION>";
$i++;
}
}
echo "</SELECT>";
echo "</td>";
echo "</form>";
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