php-windows Digest 8 Jul 2009 02:07:23 -0000 Issue 3658

Topics (messages 29456 through 29469):

Re: [PHP] 64 bit binary ?
        29456 by: loki
        29459 by: Lester Caine
        29461 by: loki
        29462 by: Daniel Brown
        29463 by: Keith Davis
        29466 by: loki
        29467 by: Keith Davis

Re: where is php5isapi in the distribution package ?
        29457 by: loki
        29458 by: Richard Quadling
        29460 by: loki
        29464 by: Keith Davis
        29465 by: Keith Davis
        29468 by: loki

Re: is ZendStudio IDE necessary????
        29469 by: gunawan

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thanks, but where i can dowload it?

""Keith Davis"" <keithda...@pridedallas.com> wrote in message news:23b59592-7ae6-4607-8161-9807a5b08...@pridedallas.com...
Yes, it is included with 530, but it is experimental.

Sent from my magic iPhone,
Keith Davis 214-906-5183

On Jul 5, 2009, at 3:53 PM, "Daniel Brown" <danbr...@php.net> wrote:

On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 15:43, loki<loki5100-newsgr...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
Hello

Is it plane to release 64 bit binary for php on windows ?

   Pierre?

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loki wrote:
thanks, but where i can dowload it?

Did you not get the links I set privately ( forgot reply all ;) )

Currently for Apache64 ...
http://www.apachelounge.com/viewtopic.php?t=415

PHP snapshots do not currently support Apache http://windows.php.net/snapshots/

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--- Begin Message --- ok, thanks lester, but it's for a production server, so i need something "stable"

is it not plan that futur version of php will be in 64 bit ?


"Lester Caine" <les...@lsces.co.uk> wrote in message news:4a51e461.3080...@lsces.co.uk...
loki wrote:
thanks, but where i can dowload it?

Did you not get the links I set privately ( forgot reply all ;) )

Currently for Apache64 ...
http://www.apachelounge.com/viewtopic.php?t=415

PHP snapshots do not currently support Apache http://windows.php.net/snapshots/

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On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 06:21, loki<loki5100-newsgr...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
> no

    Not you.  ;-P

    Note that I forwarded the message to the appropriate list --- the
php-windows@ mailing list --- where Pierre Joye hangs out.  He'd be
the one to help you.

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Strange, but the drop-down on this page lists the x64 Windows binaries,
but they are not on the page:

http://windows.php.net/download/


Keith Davis (214) 906-5183

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From: loki [mailto:loki5100-newsgr...@yahoo.fr] 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 5:22 AM
To: php-wind...@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Re: [PHP] 64 bit binary ?

thanks, but where i can dowload it?

""Keith Davis"" <keithda...@pridedallas.com> wrote in message
news:23b59592-7ae6-4607-8161-9807a5b08...@pridedallas.com...
Yes, it is included with 530, but it is experimental.

Sent from my magic iPhone,
Keith Davis 214-906-5183

On Jul 5, 2009, at 3:53 PM, "Daniel Brown" <danbr...@php.net> wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 15:43, loki<loki5100-newsgr...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>> Is it plane to release 64 bit binary for php on windows ?
>
>    Pierre?
>
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oh yes, you are right !

so it's seam that php will be soon in x64 ?

""Keith Davis"" <keithda...@pridedallas.com> wrote in message news:b0baccaa54a7cc479fb67d9494fb018a6e3...@dc01.pridedallas.com...

Strange, but the drop-down on this page lists the x64 Windows binaries,
but they are not on the page:

http://windows.php.net/download/


Keith Davis (214) 906-5183

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From: loki [mailto:loki5100-newsgr...@yahoo.fr]
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 5:22 AM
To: php-wind...@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Re: [PHP] 64 bit binary ?

thanks, but where i can dowload it?

""Keith Davis"" <keithda...@pridedallas.com> wrote in message
news:23b59592-7ae6-4607-8161-9807a5b08...@pridedallas.com...
Yes, it is included with 530, but it is experimental.

Sent from my magic iPhone,
Keith Davis 214-906-5183

On Jul 5, 2009, at 3:53 PM, "Daniel Brown" <danbr...@php.net> wrote:

On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 15:43, loki<loki5100-newsgr...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
Hello

Is it plane to release 64 bit binary for php on windows ?

   Pierre?

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I believe so XDEBUG just released x64 binaries on 7/3. 



Keith Davis (214) 906-5183

-----Original Message-----
From: loki [mailto:loki5100-newsgr...@yahoo.fr] 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:55 AM
To: php-wind...@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Re: [PHP] 64 bit binary ?

oh yes, you are right !

so it's seam that php will be soon in x64 ?

""Keith Davis"" <keithda...@pridedallas.com> wrote in message
news:b0baccaa54a7cc479fb67d9494fb018a6e3...@dc01.pridedallas.com...

Strange, but the drop-down on this page lists the x64 Windows binaries,
but they are not on the page:

http://windows.php.net/download/


Keith Davis (214) 906-5183

-----Original Message-----
From: loki [mailto:loki5100-newsgr...@yahoo.fr]
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 5:22 AM
To: php-wind...@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] Re: [PHP] 64 bit binary ?

thanks, but where i can dowload it?

""Keith Davis"" <keithda...@pridedallas.com> wrote in message
news:23b59592-7ae6-4607-8161-9807a5b08...@pridedallas.com...
Yes, it is included with 530, but it is experimental.

Sent from my magic iPhone,
Keith Davis 214-906-5183

On Jul 5, 2009, at 3:53 PM, "Daniel Brown" <danbr...@php.net> wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 15:43, loki<loki5100-newsgr...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>> Is it plane to release 64 bit binary for php on windows ?
>
>    Pierre?
>
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--- Begin Message --- But what is FastCGI and how to use FastCGI ? why php5isapi is not anymore maintained ?

thanks again
stéphane


""Sascha Meyer"" <harlequ...@gmx.de> wrote in message news:20090705200637.307...@gmx.net...
Hi Stéphane,


Why i can not find php5isapi.dll in the distribution package of PHP 5.3 ?

Thanks you by advance

I just checked the archives at windows.php.net and you are perfectly right, there is no php5isapi.dll available in this build.

PHP5Isapi has been removed in PHP 5.3 because it was no longer maintained; Use FastCGI instead.

Regards,

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2009/7/6 loki <loki5100-newsgr...@yahoo.fr>:
> But what is FastCGI and how to use FastCGI ? why php5isapi is not anymore
> maintained ?
>
> thanks again
> stéphane
>
>
> ""Sascha Meyer"" <harlequ...@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:20090705200637.307...@gmx.net...
>>
>> Hi Stéphane,
>>
>>>
>>> Why i can not find php5isapi.dll in the distribution package of PHP 5.3 ?
>>>
>>> Thanks you by advance
>>
>> I just checked the archives at windows.php.net and you are perfectly
>> right, there is no php5isapi.dll available in this build.
>>
>> PHP5Isapi has been removed in PHP 5.3 because it was no longer maintained;
>> Use FastCGI instead.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sascha
>>
>>
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I recently moved from Sambar+ISAPI to IIS7+FastCGI.

I have to say I'm impressed. The ease of getting PHP running on IIS
(and I did it manually as I wanted to know what was going on) was
considerable.

FastCGI is another SAPI (along with CLI, CGI, etc.) FastCGI is an
evolution of CGI [1].

The web server are you using will dictate the capabilities of FastCGI.

Regards,

Richard.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fastcgi
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the probleme is that i build myself the http server :(
how to do to use fastcgi from my custom http server?
my http server is done in delphi

thanks you by advance

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"Richard Quadling" <rquadl...@googlemail.com> wrote in message news:10845a340907060335n75db9309t7357559cedf0a...@mail.gmail.com...
2009/7/6 loki <loki5100-newsgr...@yahoo.fr>:
But what is FastCGI and how to use FastCGI ? why php5isapi is not anymore
maintained ?

thanks again
stéphane


""Sascha Meyer"" <harlequ...@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:20090705200637.307...@gmx.net...

Hi Stéphane,


Why i can not find php5isapi.dll in the distribution package of PHP 5.3 ?

Thanks you by advance

I just checked the archives at windows.php.net and you are perfectly
right, there is no php5isapi.dll available in this build.

PHP5Isapi has been removed in PHP 5.3 because it was no longer maintained;
Use FastCGI instead.

Regards,

Sascha


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I recently moved from Sambar+ISAPI to IIS7+FastCGI.

I have to say I'm impressed. The ease of getting PHP running on IIS
(and I did it manually as I wanted to know what was going on) was
considerable.

FastCGI is another SAPI (along with CLI, CGI, etc.) FastCGI is an
evolution of CGI [1].

The web server are you using will dictate the capabilities of FastCGI.

Regards,

Richard.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fastcgi
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Isapi is not supported anymore, because FastCGI is available. PHP is optimized 
for multi-process, but Windows is optimized for multi-threaded. Now that 
FastCGI removes the performance problem of using CGI versus ISAPI, the PHP team 
will no longer have to maintain a secondary set of binaries (ISAPI.)

http://www.iis-aid.com/articles/iis_aid_news/php_isapi_module_to_be_retired

I found some text indicating that you can still get the ISAPI, but you will 
have to compile it yourself.

For FastCGI, some links:
http://devzone.zend.com/article/2710
http://learn.iis.net/page.aspx/246/using-fastcgi-to-host-php-applications-on-iis-70/
http://forums.iis.net/p/1158874/1908789.aspx
 



Keith Davis (214) 906-5183

-----Original Message-----
From: loki [mailto:loki5100-newsgr...@yahoo.fr] 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 5:25 AM
To: php-wind...@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] where is php5isapi in the distribution package ?

But what is FastCGI and how to use FastCGI ? why php5isapi is not anymore 
maintained ?

thanks again
stéphane


""Sascha Meyer"" <harlequ...@gmx.de> wrote in message 
news:20090705200637.307...@gmx.net...
> Hi Stéphane,
>
>>
>> Why i can not find php5isapi.dll in the distribution package of PHP 5.3 ?
>>
>> Thanks you by advance
>
> I just checked the archives at windows.php.net and you are perfectly 
> right, there is no php5isapi.dll available in this build.
>
> PHP5Isapi has been removed in PHP 5.3 because it was no longer 
> maintained; Use FastCGI instead.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sascha
>
>
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Wow, that's pretty intense. Curious, why do you build your own HTTP server? 



Keith Davis (214) 906-5183

-----Original Message-----
From: loki [mailto:loki5100-newsgr...@yahoo.fr] 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 6:54 AM
To: php-wind...@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] where is php5isapi in the distribution package ?

the probleme is that i build myself the http server :( how to do to use fastcgi 
from my custom http server?
my http server is done in delphi

thanks you by advance

--
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Http://www.arkadia.com/fra/
Http://www.arkadia.com/usa/
Http://www.arkadia.com/rus/



"Richard Quadling" <rquadl...@googlemail.com> wrote in message 
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2009/7/6 loki <loki5100-newsgr...@yahoo.fr>:
> But what is FastCGI and how to use FastCGI ? why php5isapi is not 
> anymore maintained ?
>
> thanks again
> stéphane
>
>
> ""Sascha Meyer"" <harlequ...@gmx.de> wrote in message 
> news:20090705200637.307...@gmx.net...
>>
>> Hi Stéphane,
>>
>>>
>>> Why i can not find php5isapi.dll in the distribution package of PHP 
>>> 5.3 ?
>>>
>>> Thanks you by advance
>>
>> I just checked the archives at windows.php.net and you are perfectly 
>> right, there is no php5isapi.dll available in this build.
>>
>> PHP5Isapi has been removed in PHP 5.3 because it was no longer 
>> maintained; Use FastCGI instead.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sascha
>>
>>
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I recently moved from Sambar+ISAPI to IIS7+FastCGI.

I have to say I'm impressed. The ease of getting PHP running on IIS (and I did 
it manually as I wanted to know what was going on) was considerable.

FastCGI is another SAPI (along with CLI, CGI, etc.) FastCGI is an evolution of 
CGI [1].

The web server are you using will dictate the capabilities of FastCGI.

Regards,

Richard.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fastcgi
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--- Begin Message --- in fact it's not really an http server, but an application that use a php engine (from php file template). for that i discuss to the php by the help of the php5isapi.dll. now that php5isapi.dll is not anymore maintened i need to found another way to discuss with the php engine ...

stéphane

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Wow, that's pretty intense. Curious, why do you build your own HTTP server?



Keith Davis (214) 906-5183

-----Original Message-----
From: loki [mailto:loki5100-newsgr...@yahoo.fr]
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 6:54 AM
To: php-wind...@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] where is php5isapi in the distribution package ?

the probleme is that i build myself the http server :( how to do to use fastcgi from my custom http server?
my http server is done in delphi

thanks you by advance

--
stephane

Http://www.arkadia.com/fra/
Http://www.arkadia.com/usa/
Http://www.arkadia.com/rus/



"Richard Quadling" <rquadl...@googlemail.com> wrote in message news:10845a340907060335n75db9309t7357559cedf0a...@mail.gmail.com...
2009/7/6 loki <loki5100-newsgr...@yahoo.fr>:
But what is FastCGI and how to use FastCGI ? why php5isapi is not
anymore maintained ?

thanks again
stéphane


""Sascha Meyer"" <harlequ...@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:20090705200637.307...@gmx.net...

Hi Stéphane,


Why i can not find php5isapi.dll in the distribution package of PHP
5.3 ?

Thanks you by advance

I just checked the archives at windows.php.net and you are perfectly
right, there is no php5isapi.dll available in this build.

PHP5Isapi has been removed in PHP 5.3 because it was no longer
maintained; Use FastCGI instead.

Regards,

Sascha


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I recently moved from Sambar+ISAPI to IIS7+FastCGI.

I have to say I'm impressed. The ease of getting PHP running on IIS (and I did it manually as I wanted to know what was going on) was considerable.

FastCGI is another SAPI (along with CLI, CGI, etc.) FastCGI is an evolution of CGI [1].

The web server are you using will dictate the capabilities of FastCGI.

Regards,

Richard.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fastcgi
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hahahaha..
scary isn't.. using word as one of tools

yes.. u right.. more editor mean more problem.. but the main problem isn't what you use.. but what you build..

thx 4 stuart about the response..
I Smile because have this kind of response.. and if this have GRP system.. i will give you +1


Stuart wrote:
2009/7/6 gunawan <landavi...@gmail.com>:
i'm not suggested using Arach for php editor.. since i think another editor
are better.
fyi.. i'm using Arach to html editor


but in med level.. using not only one editor is something u must face

for me.. i'm using a bunch of editor..
that's include image editor and text editor.. this is my full list
* Crimson editor => php editor
* MS Word => template builder??
* Irfanview
* Flash.. image building
* Photoshop => for polish my image.. but irfanview seem better.. since My
work not soo need powerfull
* Filezilla => upload my work

well.. I just want to share.. to inform.. if you want to enter Med to expert
programer.. u must have a lot tools/editor
and next step is something you must find to enter EXPERT
*that's not scary right?

Word? You're freaking kidding right?

In general I would argue that the tools you use have absolutely no
bearing on what level developer you are, but to be using Word for
anything other than word processing takes a special kind of ignorance
and/or stupidity. It has no place as a development tool unless you're
developing Word macros.

-Stuart



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