Thanks Paul,
you got actually why I didn't answer again to Mr. Svensson. It's not worth -
he will not understand us "...without any programming skills..."
This newsgroup is made for two sort of people: who needs help and who can
help. But, there is some people they belong to third group - they want to be
smart.
>"...What I wrote is based on a philosophical discussion I had with ..."
Criticism with help - it's ok, it's helpful.
Just criticism? No, thank you.
> Well, quite nice design!, but... <yaaawn> what
> do you want for that? A medal or what? ;-)
"yaaaaaawning" for somebody's work - it shows in the best way what kind of
person is he.
Afan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Meagher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Svensson, B.A.T. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "afan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] extracting email addresses
> > Most normal intelligent persons without any programming skills are able
> > to put together a workable program if they only have a manual, because
> > humans are creative beings. But then manage to make a program that works
> > for a task doesn't mean that these guy can do programming! These fellows
> > will usually construct programs that a experience programmer would, to
> > put it nicely, call "unusual constructions". Probably these program will
> > suffer from bad degrees of coupling and cohesion (aka: spaghetti
programs
> > in popular terms).
>
> This seems a bit harsh. Afan is trying to learn PHP and is asking some
> questions that seem uninformed. In my opinion, he is providing us with
> some valuable insights into the mental roadblocks that some newcomers find
> in trying to learn PHP. I hope he is not turned off by your comments.
> Hang in there Afan.
>
> > D.S. Your description above about the file with e-mail address is still
> > not sufficient enough for a programmer to understand how (s)he should
> > employ an algorithm to extract e-mail addresses from it. You suffer
> > from the "general-customer-ignorance-problem", where the customer
> > believes that programmers are mind reader and can extract all the
> > details from a transcendental spiritual plane... Well, let me tell
> > you this: programming haven't reached that state - yet. :) D.S.
>
> Actually, most customers don't have enought savvy to provide requirements.
> There is an element of mind reading involved. A better term is
> sense-making. I suspect that "good" developers can "read minds" based on
> pattern completion arising from experience in similiar situations.
> Personally, I believe in alot of mind reading and prototype development to
> confirm that my mind reading is on track.
>
> Regards,
> Paul Meagher
>
>
>
>
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