Mihail,
Well, I am not sure if PHP will be the next big thing. I will say that PHP
does have a good standing in popularity. With scripting languages ASP seems to be the
dominate language in the job market. Employers look at ASP as a "commercial" language
where some may look at PHP as "non-commercial". Once the job market realizes that ASP
is not the main cup of tea, maybe PHP will become the dominate one. I will say that
there is NOT any one particular language that "has-it-all". I wouldn't be surprised
if a company doesn't take advantage of this and invest in creating a "has-it-all"
language. Then again, there will always be PROS and CONS with any new language.
There are many new "scripting" languages in the up and comings like "iHTML" or "XHTML".
NOTE: when I talk about "scripting languages", I am referring to any web-based
language that integrates with HTML to be used online.
John Negretti
Web Applications Developer
Cox Communications www.cox.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mihail Bota [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [PHP-WIN] PHP jobs
>
>
> John,
>
> True. I am sure that the many of us
> who are on this list (if not all), are going to say that PHP
> is "Big" and
> is going to the the next "Big" thing. However, are there any
> "unbiased"
> analyses? Sort of comparisons between Postgres and Mysql, but
> which would
> point out the reasons why PHP will be the next "Big"?
>
> And because is the time of testimonials, I have to confess that (PHP,
> MySql) pair made me happy. I am not a programmer, I just
> fiddle around in
> the field called neuroinformatics. I worked with other things
> in the past
> (such as the package Informix/Illustra which gave me headaches and
> nightmares), and none of those couldn't do everything what
> PHP/Mysql are
> doing. Needless to say that packages like JPGraph allowed me to post
> histograms and such and made my boss happy:). Still, this
> does not mean
> the PHP is going to be automatically the next Big thing.
> I even do not know what are the criteria that a
> software/language has to
> fulfill to become a buzzword/"the ultimate" and so on.
>
> Mihai
>
> On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Negretti, John (CCI-San Diego) wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> > Let me throw in my two-cents.
> >
> > I have just recently switched my primary scripting
> language to PHP. :-) For the past 4 years I have been
> dabbling with different scripting languages. I was primarily
> ColdFusion then I started getting into "Miva Script". I
> liked the language so much, I got a software development job
> at the company that actually made the language, (Miva
> Corporation, www.miva.com). I was with Miva Corp. for over 2
> years. Just about every major webhost offers Miva Script. I
> thought Miva Script was going to be the next BIG thing. I
> opposed anyone who though PHP or ColdFusion or ASP was
> better. I was known as the "Miva Script Evangelist". I was
> young and naive. :-P
> >
> > Here are the reasons why it did NOT do good, and still does not.
> >
> > 1. Too complicated to install on a server.
> > 2. Not cheap.
> > 3. Too many restrictions with the license.
> > 4. No marketing campaigns.
> > 5. No good resources/tutorials.
> >
> > After exhaustive research to find a NEW primary scripting
> language, I found PHP. I even changed my personal website
> (www.ideablue.com) from Miva Script to PHP. There may not be
> a vast amount of PHP jobs, but there will be soon. Here's why...
> >
> > 1. PHP is free.
> > 2. PHP is easy to learn.
> > 3. Lots of resources.
> >
> > Many companies are switching to PHP mostly because it's
> free and works so well with a FREE database (MySQL). At
> large corporations there is LOTS of red tape to get through
> for an approval of a "paid" software. Since PHP is free, IT
> managers can install PHP without any hassles or complaints
> form "corporate". The internet is still young and growing
> and so is the need for more "web developers" who can do more
> than just plain HTML.
> >
> > To all those who develop PHP, I THANK YOU ALL, for your
> hard work and effort to make such a powerful language.
> >
> > John Negretti
> > Web Applications Developer
> > Cox Communications www.cox.com
> > (619) 266-5565
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:38 AM
> > > To: Mihail Bota
> > > Cc: RS Herhuth; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] PHP jobs
> > >
> > >
> > > > Rasmus, just wondering, any species requirements from that
> > > moneky to learn
> > > > PHP? It would be interesting to see a gorrila and a
> lemur coding in
> > > > PHP, side by side :)
> > >
> > > First, it is a given the person has significant experience
> > > with C, C++ or
> > > Java, Perl or Python or Ruby, Apache, and XML. If the resume
> > > doesn't hit
> > > those basic points, toss it. Next I look for interesting project
> > > experience and pick out the people who have done things along
> > > the lines of
> > > what my current requirements are.
> > >
> > > -Rasmus
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > They are, but personally when I hire a "PHP" programmer I
> > > don't look for
> > > > > PHP skills. I look for other skills that show that the
> > > person is bright.
> > > > > I can teach a moderately intelligent monkey to use PHP.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think most people look at things too much from a tool
> > > perspective. You
> > > > > don't hire a newspaper writer because his resume says he
> > > knows how to
> > > > > type. You look at what he has written. He may not be
> > > able to type at
> > > > > all.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Rasmus
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, RS Herhuth wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hear from a lot of different sources that PHP is the
> > > next "Big" thing. I
> > > > > > have been using PHP myself for some pretty serious web
> > > application
> > > > > > development for my current job for well over a year
> > > now. But my question is
> > > > > > in searching for potential PHP related employment there
> > > isn't much of
> > > > > > anything out there. So who is using PHP and why aren't
> > > they hiring?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > R
> > > > > >
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