Here in the US, the issue of Copyrights on pictures used on web sites is
being scrutinized very carefully.  In a situation involving the use of a
picture that was placed on a web site by a client of a web site that is
hosted by a company that was just recently purchase by our company, the
owner of the web site was ordered by the owners of the copyright to "cease
and desist" in the use of the picture because he did not have either a
copyright notice or a notice of the source of the picture, ie: "Picture
Courtesy of XYZ Company",

The company took the owner served the owner of the web site with a summons
ordering him to remove the picture and he still refused, so they filed a
suite in the State of California, the state in which both the owner of the
Web Site and the Company that owns the picture are located.

The case wound its way thru the courts and on March 31st, 2003, the final
verdict was handed down by the courts.  Here is a summary of the verdict
from the California Bar Association's newsletter as it was published on that
same date:

"DEFAULT JUDGMENT in favor of plaintiff against defendant XXXXX XXXXXX and
XXXXX XXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX in the amount of [USD] $69,486.50., ***Civil Case
Terminated..  Signed by Judge Ronald Whyte on 3/31/03. (cv, )"  (For privacy
purposes, the client's name has been obliterated from this announcement.)

The previous owner of the web hosting company was also fined USD $3,000 for
his failure to remove the image from the client's web site upon notification
by the owner of the image.  The court held that it is the "web hosting
company's responsibility to immediately and completely remove all improperly
used and copyrighted images upon notification of the hosting company by the
copyright owner."

Remember, this judgment was entered for the improper use of a SINGLE IMAGE!

So the moral of the story here is:  ALWAYS place a Copyright Notice ON the
picture somewhere AND give credit to the source of the item when using it on
a web site - EVEN WHEN YOU HAVE PERMISSION TO USE IT.

Companies that own copyrights and the US courts are beginning to take
Copyright Infringement VERY SERVIOSLY.

Bruce Barnes. CEO
ChicagoNetTech / Rinella Internet Services
Chicago IL

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I can't answer your question, and this may even be off-topic, but copyright
law is never so simple as it may at first seem.

I don't know the law in any country but my own (Britain), but here in
Britain, adding a watermark does NOT make a picture copyright. In Britain,
what makes a picture, or a novel, or a piece of music, or any other
creation, copyright, is the simple fact that you've published it. In other
words, simply putting something on the web _automatically gives you
copyright_.

Unfortunately, the problem then becomes proving it. If two people both claim
to be the creator of the same document, the "winner" - the copyright owner -
is the one who published it first. How do you prove this? You can't. So the
courts get full of people saying "I wrote this", "No, I wrote this", etc..
To safeguard against this, recommended practice is to seal several copies of
your work in a envelopes in which all the edges have been signed and dated
and selotaped over, and then send them by registered post to a number of
trusted parties, including yourself, at creation time (i.e. _before_ you
first publish it). The recipients should be instructed _not to open their
envelope_. In the event of a court dispute, the postmark on the still-sealed
envelopes is considered proof that the work was known to you on or before
that date.

The message "Copyright <name> <date>" is just a warning. It carries no legal
weight. Nor does a watermark. If I create (and publish) a picture, and you
steal it and watermark it, the copyright remains mine.

The law will doubtless be different in other countries. Check on the
internet for the law in yours.

In any case - I seriously doubt that a watermark is unremovable by a
talented hacker.

There's another interesting legal point to consider. If your work is created
by a PROGRAM, do you still own the copyright? (Says I, scarily venturing
into the realms of AI rights here). This is actually a very complicated
issue and one which is likely to remain unresolved for the forseeable
future.

Jill



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is if there is way to print a watermark on a picture in order to make it
copyrighted.

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