Good idea. Get a CVS account to work w/ the PHPDOC team and start writing some of the sections you suggest. Although they would rather be in a tutorial document IMHO. The PHPDOC team/list is the place to suggest this ideas, not the notes to the manual. (CC'ing to the phpdoc list) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is only my idea for PHP manual. Hope this is > the right place to post. > > I think current manual is great, useful and well > documented. Great job!! Manual is enough for those > who are programmed in other language especially C++ > or Java. However, the manual is not enough for many > new PHP users, especially for newbie programmers. I > think Feature section is a bit too advanced for new > PHP users. It would be nice to have a new sub > section in Features section or totally new section > like "Programming PHP". It might have sections like > "New to PHP/CGI/Web Programming", "Interact with > browsers","Interact with server", "PHP modules", > "Using Database" and "Beyond PHP" (It also time say > good-bye to PHP3 because it seems many PHP4 features > are not documented due to incompatibility with > PHP3(?). > > I think contents does not have be like a > "Programming Book". I think brief descriptions for > each topic is enough for starters. There would be > different opinions putting those things in the > manual. This is only my idea for new section. > > [New to PHP/CGI/Web Programming] > What is CGI > - Brief explanation of CGI. > Difference between client side script and server > side script > - It seems many beginners are confusing and keep > getting the similar or same questions on list. > About Dynamic HTML > - What is Dynamic HTML and Server generated HTML. > List of useful references. > - Many user does not read RFC, Cookie Spec, etc. > - Link to Zend tutorials/link to other similar > site. > - XML related sites. > Simple form example to demonstrate how PHP works. > And so on. > > [Interact with browsers] > How user data (get/post/cookie) is set > - $GLOBALS, $HTTP_GET_VARS, $HTTP_POST_VARS, > $HTTP_COOKIE_VARS. > - It seems many users do not use $HTTP_*_VARS and > use globals instead, even if use of $HTTP_*_VARS > variables are recommended. > What kind of request header info is set as server > variable. > - Common variables on various environment like > REQUEST_URI, HTTP_REFERER, at least. > How to get array value from browser. (Is this > documented somewhere?) > How to determine users browser. > How to use header() function and its reference. (It > seems many users do not read RFC) > How to make a session. > And so on. > > [Interact with server] > This section may be difficult to write since PHP > supports many servers. Apache/IIS is the most > popular one I believe. How about make a this section > only applicable to Apache Module and IIS? > What is $HTTP_SERVER_VARS, $HTTP_ENV_VARS. > How to change PHP settings locally. > How to set up virtual host with Apache. > And so on. > > [PHP extensions] > For new users, PHP extension is better to be > explained. > What is module. > What is default modules. > Brief description for each modules. What is for? > What is does. > How to install new module to IIS/Apache. > And so on. > > [Interact with database] > Since PHP works with many databases, it would be > nice to describe those modules briefly. > > [Beyond PHP] > Extending PHP and Interaction with other systems. > Creating PHP modules > - explain that users can write their own modules > if needed. > Using COM > Using Java > Using XML-RPC/Soap > Others? > > http://www.php.net/manual/en/features.php > > > -- > PHP Notes Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To contact the list administrators, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ===== --- Jesus M. Castagnetto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/