Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You were right with the client, I've just tried it with Outlook Expr. and > can read them there. I didn't know that there is already a web-interface, > but IMHO the usability of a web-i/f (in general, not esp. this one) can't be > as good as with a news-client. But anyhow, I appreciate your efforts! right, i didn't mean to suggest the web interface as an alternative to a decent news client, but it is a good way to double-check if there is an issue specific to a news client, because the web interface is very liberal in what it accepts back from the news server. it appears that netscape 4.7 is not so forgiving. my guess would be that it is being picky about the specific format of the 'From' headers on some messages. you can use the web interface to help figure out what exactly it is that netscape 4.7 doesn't like about the messages by looking at the source for the articles, which contains the html-escaped headers inside comments. (just find the commonalities between the messages that netscape 4.7 won't load.) rfc 1036 is the specification for news messages. >> in general, because these are really mail messages, the threading >> won't be as clean as a traditional newsgroup. (it really depends on >> how forgiving the client is of seeing 'In-Reply-To' headers versus >> 'References' headers.) > > Hm... I'm not an expert, but if e.g. > "Re: [PHP-NOTES] note 13852 ....." works with > "Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-NOTES] note 13852 .....", > Why doesn't then > "Re: [PHP-DEV] Security?" work with > "RE: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Security?" ? the basic issue is that mail uses the 'In-Reply-To' header for threading, and news uses the 'References' header. the news server does some work to turn In-Reply-To headers into 'References' headers, but it is not very thorough. a modern news client should handle either, since this is an issue that would be common to any mailing list gatewayed to a news group. the problem you're facing is that netscape 4 does threading poorly in general. (http://www.jwz.org/doc/threading.html documents how it should be done.) > And a general thought: > I've just seen the message: > "Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Security?" > > Is there a possiblity to stop this "re:[xx]re:[xx]re:[xx]"-inclusion after a > certain "cycle"? (but bring it into the thread :)? not really. the ezmlm-idx mailing list handler is what adds those subject prefixes. threads that cross lists are rare enough that i don't think it is a big deal. >> we are the provider. > > Great, than it is in our hands! well, to the limits of people's patience to debug silly news clients. :) jim
