Hi, I agree with Hojtsy, that in XML we should express the _meaning_ of things. It is then to the stylesheets etc etc to process it correctly. Egon: I don't understand you fully, since you prefer <paramdef>void</paramdef> in stead of <void/> i.e. a hack to get the rendering correct (to your opinion), but at the same time, you prefer a correct XML with rand(), and don't want Jani's patch, which was a hack to get the rendering correct. Agreed, I'm ambigious too, since I prefer correct XML in the former case, and a hack in the latter. But that's because the stylesheets are not rendering it right in the correct XML-way. And because it is _really_ wrong with rand([min, [max]]), and with void, it is a matter of taste (both can be considered correct) Greetz Jeroen
