> >   - we should not drop the unix tools, let windows
> > guys
> >     sweat the first time they join the team

Phing would be a wonderful idea - if everyone on windows had build tools,
and if (as Jesus mentioned) everyone was running PHP5.  They don't, and
aren't.  In the absence of build tools distributed as part of the OS
package, cygwin's still the only sane option available.

It's a huge learning curve, sure.  It teaches a whole new set of shell
commands.  That knowledge pays dividends in all kinds of places - not least
because we win32-heads finally get to understand wtf you geeks are talking
about :)

Finally, if you change the build system for the PHP core documentation
project so radically without so much as a nod toward all the subsidiary PHP
documentation efforts we'll all end up even more out of sync than we
currently are.  I have made a fair amount of effort to make php-gtk-doc at
least vaguely compatible with both phpdoc and livedocs; every change you
implement takes my team (and, presumably, peardoc and smartydoc teams)
further from achieving some kind of homogeny.  We don't need to do
everything exactly the same, sure, but changing the build system
requirements is a very big move! and one that will lose us the occasional
phpdoc team member who wants to help out on a smaller project for a while.

I agree with Jesus.  Leave the changes until PHP5 has production status and
Phing is provably stable.  Please :)

- Steph

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