||*()*|| Hi, Andrei.

AZ> Hey guys,

AZ> I just wanted to shoot a quick email to the list to see when we could
AZ> start work on docs for Unicode upgrades (PHP 6). The main thing, IMO,
AZ> is having a way to mark functions as Unicode compatible and also have a
AZ> section (per-function) for any Unicode-related notes. Any other 
AZ> thoughts on this?

AZ> -Andrei

    My opinion is that PHP6 manual needs to be cleaned of garbage collected
from the previous years. Users, who will choose PHP6 does not need to
know various quirks of PHP4 and PHP5. I suspect that PHP6 will not be
compatible with PHP4 and PHP5 so there is no reason to keep them
merged in one manual. Yes, this is a lot of work, but this refactoring
is highly required at least from usability point of view.

    Unicode transistion efforts must have separate page with howto, status and
diff ability. This way rather busy people may pertain interest by
tracking activity and contributing from time to time.

    Make an environment first.

    ---[warning - critics below]--

    Where is phpdoc-tools mailing list?
    Why 3 year drop dead php-doc-chm mailing list is still present?
    Where is a machine for autobuilding CHM manual?
    
    <insert some foul words here>

    I'm really tired of it. Think about creating lively ecosystem instead
of calling for papers and cruising for money. =/

    <other foul lexicon goes here>

    Make at least system to place requests with reminders an track their
status. Easy votings like yes/no and not this cumbersome proposal system
monster nobody have a time to play with. Take a look at "software
engineering" disciplines, try to organize requirements gathering, try
to make it interesting task to think, analyse and track instead of
asking in mails - "any ideas?". Take a look at development models used
around the world to see that PHP volunteers doesn't have any tools to
help them. No tools, no standards, no simple great ideas to get and
follow. No support from systems either. I've just lost two important
mails because of quarantine which doesn't processed them during last
8 hours, nobody replied me why and I do not have any means to see the
status of the servers / mail queue.

    It is pity to see things in PHP are moving so slowly that lack of
trust and time makes all collaboration useless.

    And one more idea to think about - SVN for phpdoc backend with
interface through livedocs.

P.S. Do not expect me to reply soon.

t
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