First things first: I'm aware of phpgroupware for quite some time now, and I cannot emphasize enough how much I appreciate and honor the hard work and the efforts of the project crew that has gone into phpGroupWare so far.
Still, what is going on with that project lately? "You can grab the new version from our download section." Yet the "download section" (http://download.phpgroupware.org/) is down, and only yields a "Server not found"-page. Mirrors: Dead, apart from Japan and sourceforge. Demos: In search for a suitable groupware-solution for a client of ours, I came across the phpGroupWare-site again. As per today, there is effectively no demo site online anymore. Docs: When you try to browse the doc-section, there is nothing but void. Apps: see "Docs" Support: see above .. To be fair: there is a link to "phpgroupware.info", a site that describes how phpGroupWare _should_ operate. I have done some 10 installs on the weekend, and as per usual this goes breezingly easy. But what comes then is simply a shame. "Projects" cannot be created as there are no "activities", and when you try to read up how you create "activities", guess what application comes without docs? I don't want to bash anybody, and once again, being a programmer for decades myself, I truly honor all the work, but even if it's OpenSource, and "free to take", shouldn't there be at least _some_ quality-criteria be met? 1: Archive content It's not really the sweetest thing to add some 850 CVS-folders to the distributed version of your system. 2: Applications Why pack apps like "img" with the standard-version, and yet inform the user that these apps are outdated (btw. the suggested "FUNKWERK" does maybe anything, but not install via the "Setup"-module) 3: quality of code What good is the respectable approach of templates when in key-apps like the calendar functions like "css()" are being called to write style-information? Anyway, I understand that in a large project like phpGroupWare things can get hairy sometimes, but the current status of website , code and the system in general indicates that something's beyond being hairy, and pretty much going awry already. I really hope the project team can inject some stringent quality aspects again before more ppl divert to e-groupware. Sincerely . Sent from the phpGroupWare forums @ forums.phpGroupWare.org _______________________________________________ phpGroupWare-developers mailing list phpGroupWare-developers@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/phpgroupware-developers