I know, I've tried to impress you since the 1999 eclipse about this hack of mine. And now I've set up someting you can try. It's phplib session and user data, included objects ofcourse, store as XML. To have a look of how powerful it can be to screen through session data in realtime, I've set up an example page at http://www.navigare.net/phplib-xml/ then open another browser window on anywhere in the site http://www.navigare.net (it's a slashdoted-plplibbed-xmlled site about navigating) While you travel around the site hit reload on the XML page, and you'll see ho your user data changes. Needs javascript and cookies for the moment, couldn't purl every href. The whole thing is up and working for a year now, on php4 recently. And uses ct_sql_split for storing large amounts of data. The explanation pages and 'kris/test' examples that I've set up for it is at: http://www.navigare.net/phplib Does anyone think it's interesting? Thanks Giancarlo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]