I might take you up on that, Jakob! At the moment, I am exploring options
regardless of the game jam. I would think it were easy to wrap SDL2, since
another person I know wrapped a few functions from SDL to compile under ECL
for a Ludum Dare Game Jam. I don't know enough of miniPicoLisp. I thought
it wouldn't be able to handle big nums, but I'm not sure that's necessary
for glut (floats)? I have holes in my programming knowledge in general,
since I am self-taught, and have not programmed for a living for the most
part. But, I did start in 1979!


BTW, I am currently in +7 GMT. What time zone are you guys in?

On 24 April 2016 at 15:04, Jakob Eriksson <ja...@aurorasystems.eu> wrote:

> IMHO it should be trivial to get SDL working with miniPicoLisp. I'd wrap
> enough of SDL to get a minimal example running and extend it from there. If
> you put it on GitHub I might help out too! :-)
> 24 apr. 2016 kl. 09:50 skrev Robert Herman <rpjher...@gmail.com>:
> Well, that answers a lot, thanks. Textures are great, but not the end, but
> X11 would have to go, since that would only work on Linux and Mac? How hard
> do you think it would be to replace X11? If it is very hard, it would be
> best to just interface to SDL2, and have sound, graphics, i/o, and
> networking out of the box. Still trying to figure if it is easy to get SDL2
> working with miniPicoLisp...sans networking.
> Rob
> On 24 April 2016 at 14:38, Alexander Burger <a...@software-lab.de> wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 09:46:28AM +0700, Robert Herman wrote:
>> > I think Java is valid, but this is for fun, and to further my PicoLisp
>> > education. Plus I think Ersatz is slow even for Java, no?
>> Indeed.
>> > pure PicoLisp, the way Alex did in his RC simulator. Althought, that was
>> > 64-bit PicoLisp, which relies on the 'native' function (where is that
>> in @src64/main.l
>> > defined?), and a custom lib for everything, no openGl? I know there is a
>> Yes, all drawing is done pixel by pixel into buffers, and then copied to
>> an XWindow.
>> > to a limitation ;)
>> > I will look at your rcsim code, Alex, and maybe I can grok enough to
>> use it
>> > for a game lib?? I find digging into the code more and more interesting
>> It would be possible to use @lib/z3d.l in a game like misc/rcsim.l, but
>> it has a lot of limitations (e.g. no textures). On the other hand it is
>> completely independent from any libraries except X11 (which might be
>> replaced by some other window system).
>> ♪♫ Alex
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