I vote for (III) -- propagate the alias. This makes the scripts very natural and readable, e.g.:

a = group pages by host;
b = foreach a generate host, count(pages);

As for what to do in the case of grouping on multiple fields, or co- group on differently-named fields, we should *not* assign a default name -- the user can choose a name using "AS".

-Chris


On Jun 5, 2008, at 9:10 AM, Alan Gates wrote:

Currently in Pig Latin, anytime a (CO)GROUP statement is used, the field (or set of fields) that are grouped on are given the alias 'group'. This has a couple of issues:

1)  It's confusing.  'group' is now a keyword and an alias.
2) We don't currently allow 'group' as an alias in an AS. It is strange to have an alias that can only be assigned by the language and never by the user.

Possible solutions:

I) Status quo. We could fix it so that group is allowed to be assigned as an alias in AS.

Pros:  Backward compatibility
Cons: a) will make the parser more complicated
     b) see 1) above.


II) Don't give an implicit alias to the group key(s). If users want an alias, they can assign it using AS.

Pros:  Simplicity
Cons: We do assign aliases to grouped bags. That is, if we have C = GROUP B by $0 the resulting schema of C is (group, B). So if we don't assign an alias to the group key, we now have a schema ($0, B). This seems strange. And worse yet, if users want to alias the group key(s), they'll be forced to alias all the grouped bags as well.

III) Carry the alias (if any) that the field had before. So if we had a script like:

A = load 'myfile' as (x, y, z);
B = group A by x;

The the schema of B would be (x, A). This is quite natural for grouping of single columns. But it turns nasty when you group on multiple columns. Do we then append the names to together? So if you have

B = group A by x, y;

is the resulting schema (x_y, A)?  Ugh.

In this case there is also the question of what to do in the case of cogroups, where the key may be named differently in different relations.

A = load 'myfile' as (x, y, z);
B = load 'myotherfile' as (t, u, v);
C = cogroup A by x, B by t;

Is the resulting schema (x, A, B) or (t, A, B) or are both valid? This could be resolved by either saying first one always wins, or allowing either.

Pros: Very natural for the users, their fields maintain names through the query.
Cons:  Quickly gets burdensome in the case of multi-key groups.

IV) Assign a non-keyword alias to the group key, like grp or groupkey or grpkey (or some other suitable choice). Pros: Least disruptive change. Users only have to go through their scripts and find places where they use the group alias and change it to grp (or whatever). Cons: Still leaves us with a situation where we are assigning a name to a field arbtrarily, leaving users confused as to how their fields got named that.

V) Remove GROUP as a keyword. It is just short for COGROUP of one relation anyway.

Pros:  Smaller syntax in a language is always good.
Cons: Will break a lot of scripts, and confuse a lot of users who only think in terms of GROUP and JOIN and never use COGROUP explicitly.

One could also conceive of combinations of these. For example, we always assign a name like grpkey to the group key(s), and in the single key case we also carry forward the alias that the field already had, if any.

Thoughts?  Other possibilities?

Alan.

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Christopher Olston, Ph.D.
Sr. Research Scientist
Yahoo! Research


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