It's ok. Btw. thanks Martin reporting the website issue. The site's cache
was corrupted, now it's back online.


On 2020-07-22 21:17, Marcelo Machado wrote:
Janos, I'm sorry if I was misunderstood.
I didn't know the [1] website and I accidentally entered it
thinking I was accessing the [2] website.
It was a mess on my part so I asked the question.
Sorry if I caused a problem.


Em qua., 22 de jul. de 2020 às 16:08, <> escreveu:

I'd like to clarify a few things. I'll use the following conventions
in this email to distinguish between the open source and commercial
editions of piler:

- 'piler': the open source email archiving project
- 'piler-ee': the commercial, enterprise version of piler

I'm a huge fan of open source projects, and even though I'm working
on a
paid, commercial product of piler-ee, I'd like to emphasize that

- I intend to keep piler open source, you have access to the source
- I won't remove any feature from piler to make piler-ee more
- I won't force you to switch to piler-ee*
- You can use piler for whatever purposes absolutely free of charge

Note that despite piler doesn't have the word 'enterprise' among its

it doesn't mean it's a crappy product you shouldn't use it for
purposes. It's quite the opposite. I believe that piler is a decent
for a secure email archive (especially if you regularly backup its
but that's a story for another day).

However, I've been looking for ways to monetize the popularity of
so I've decided to fork it, and been working on piler-ee, including
services as well even for piler.

*: check out if you are curious what piler-ee
offers for you.


On 2020-07-22 18:07, Martin Nadvornik wrote:
Hi Marcelo,

can't speek for Janos, the developer of Piler, but I am not aware
any changes. What did you read that leads you into thinking piler
not open source anymore?
The source code is available like always at and the master
had the last commit 4 days ago...

There has always been an enterprise edition (at least as long as I
know the project) but you are not required to pay anything to use
piler when using the open source version.

Or maybe you got confused because the site currently seems a bit
broken and clicking on "GoBD notes" leads to the enterprise
documentation. The normal documentation ist still reachable under however.

Janos: FYI the website seems broken. I guess "Please fill or
this placeholder" is not something that is supposed to be there :)


Am 2020-07-22 17:51, schrieb Marcelo Machado:
Hello everyone.

Is Mail Piler only commercial now?

Does the Open Source Edition still exist?

Marcelo Gomes


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