I'm personally seriously concerned with Ubuntu shipping with PiTiVi -
a video editor - when it doesn't even have transitions, effects or DV
capture yet. That's like shipping GIMP without a save/export function.

I understand where PiTiVi is and where it is going and am excited for
it, but this is far too early to be included in Ubuntu by default.

2010/2/9 Jeff <[email protected]>:
> Hi folks. I have been suddenly reminded of the the Ubuntu Feature Freeze on
> the 18th of February (that's in 10 days!) by comment #5 on the following bug
> report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pitivi/+bug/506642
>
> In that thread, from comment #6 onwards, I revealed some of my worries
> regarding the fast-approaching Ubuntu deadlines and the current state of
> PiTiVi. Vish then mentionned that he discussed with some devs (namely Rick
> Spencer and Jono) on #ubuntu-desktop. I looked up the archives of the logs,
> here they are if you are curious:
> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/02/08/%23ubuntu-desktop.txt (look at 18:32)
>
> In this discussion, it was suggested that a hackfest could be organized, and
> I think that they have sent some mail to Edward about that. I wanted to
> raise this on the mailing list because I'm still wondering about two things:
>
> 1) What features and bug fixes should be considered the requirement for the
> 0.13.4 release? In other words, when do we decide that we have "reached"
> that release?
>
> 2) Do we, as a project, have a “failsafe” plan of holding back PiTiVi from
> being included in Ubuntu 10.04 by default if we deem it “not yet ready for
> mass consumption”? I am mainly concerned about the bad publicity that it
> could get. However, maybe I am worrying too much and users wouldn't really
> bash it for not having features XYZ (the usual: transitions, effects, DV
> capture, poneys...), and maybe, on the complete opposite of the worst case
> scenario, more users would be interested in the software and more
> contributors would join... this is a delicate PR situation.
>
> By the way, I'm suspecting that many "rendering hangs at a certain point
> during rendering" bugs on 0.13.3 might be due to the broken still image
> support which was recently fixed by Brandon in pitivi git. Maybe I need to
> NEEDINFO some of bugs asking if still images were in use.
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