Agreed. 

To be clear - as I understand it, there are two potential use cases for Maven 
with respect to Pivot:

1) Distribute Pivot artifacts via Maven for consumption by other projects
2) Use Maven to build Pivot itself

Item #1 has some clear benefits as it will make Pivot more readily available to 
those developers who do use Maven. Item #2 is questionable since it will 
involve significant changes to our current build process and the value of 
making such a change has not yet been substantiated.

On Monday, April 06, 2009, at 10:56AM, "Todd Volkert" <[email protected]> 
wrote:
>I for one have not been operating under that assumption and agree with
>all that you say in your email.  I've had [very] little experience
>with Maven on one prior project and thought that it was an awful large
>hammer, but then again, I've heard some other people rave about it, so
>it's probably the standard "use the right tool for the job" story.
>
>-T
>
>On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Christopher Brind <[email protected]> 
>wrote:
>> Unless I've missed something (or maybe I'm reading between the lines) there
>> seems to be an assumption that we're moving to Maven.
>>
>> I've never used Maven, though I do from time to review whether or not it
>> will be useful to me.  So far I haven't seen a use-case where it actually
>> adds benefit (above and beyond anything I can put together in Ant), but
>> that's just in my little world.
>>
>> My understanding is that once you go down the Maven route it is very hard to
>> get out of it if you decide it's not for your project.  It also seems like
>> quite a big dependency to have for building your project.  At the moment all
>> I need is ant and an SVN client.
>>
>> I know there are a lot of Maven fans out there, so I'm open to giving it a
>> chance, but I think we should all be committed to it.
>>
>> So before this project considers moving to Maven I would like to see:
>> - a volunteer to be Maven champion
>> - a list of benefits that it will add to the project
>> - a list of disadvantages
>> - a getting started overview for people working on pivot
>> - a getting started overview for people working with pivot
>> - an overview of how people working on pivot would work day to day
>> - an overview of how people working with pivot would work day to day
>>
>> Then we should vote on it.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>
>

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