On 04/05/2009 15:23, Greg Brown wrote:
Thanks for taking the time to post. This is some great feedback - my
comments below.

Thanks for your answers.

collection APIs [...]
Some specific differences:

Very interesting and indeed not a duplication of work.
If not already there, you should put this information on the Wiki! ;-)

Most of the comparison points are discussed in our proposal to the
Apache Incubator; see the section entitled "Comparison to Other
Java-Based RIA Platforms":

http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/PivotProposal

Cool. Again, I might have missed the link, but this page might be worth to be linked from the current home page (or copied and updated on the Wiki and prominently referenced. Possible updates, beside the one you mention (D'n'D, clipboard): the Web page on top (and below) is dead, typos like "inteface", etc. - and removal of Apache-specific required stuff).

We'd love to see Pivot become available on mobile devices. However,
this is largely dependent on Java SE's availability on such devices.
It's entirely possible that, if JavaFX can run on a particular
device, Pivot would also work there.

Well, as you might know, they make profiles: the Desktop profile has full power, including Swing stuff and advanced (CPU heavy?) graphics, the Common (or Mobile) profile targets specifically JavaME, so should run on these limited JREs.
I fear there are not much mobiles able to run a full JavaSE today.
But indeed adapting to JavaME might be quite some work (I discovered there is not such simple things as String.split() by lack of regular expressions!). Not a priority, I suppose, but that's something JavaFX pushes as a paramount advantage, even if there is no official support of real devices yet (only run in emulators).

While many Pivot widgets do behave similarly to their Window's
counterparts, Pivot does not target Windows exclusively, so some UI
behaviors are different

Of course, I mentioned Windows because that's what I (and lot of people) am used to, but basically the shortcuts I mentioned are just practical/useful (particularly the Home/End keys).

I hope I will be able to spend some more time on this interesting framework (like you, that's on my free time, already crowded! ;-)).

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