On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 03:56:11PM -0500, Nicolas Williams wrote:
> > An on-disk format for pkg would allow the SYSV->PKG translator
> > to be unbundled.
> 
> But you still have to submit the package.

Not if the pkg client can install directly from the on-disk package.

> > Not having an on-disk format is very mind-blowing for the average
> > developer.  If you want people to use this technology, you have
> > to provide some guidelines for what the normaly daily development
> > process is supposed to be like.  And also what the release
> > engineering process could be like.  For example: How does my
> > nightly build produce packages?  How do I hand off
> > the bits to RE, how does RE stage them to an internal testing server?
> > etc, etc.   Many of these people won't be admins and won't have
> > the ability or desire to create and maintain their own servers.
> 
> A script built around the pkgsend command would be an ad-hoc on-disk
> format.  Considering that SVR4 pkgs are typically built by scripting
> around pkgmk(1) I don't see a big difference.  IPS pkgs that are not in
> a repository are useless;

That, IMO, is the issue.  I know at least two groups within Sun
which are currently exploring ways to ship packages on a CD.  The
best way currently seems to be to ship the repository image in the
CD and launch a local depot server to serve those packages -- which
is kinda pointless because that authority is going to go away as
soon as the packages are installed.

Shawn, I think, is planning on implementing this and allowing
packages to be installed without having a depot server.
http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=2660

Venky.
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