On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:25:20 +0100, Luca Capello wrote: > Ciao Davide!
David, grazie :P > Please keep the pkg-fso-maint@ mailing list cc:ed, TIA. Uh, IIRC it wasn't in the CC loop before, sorry. > On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:57:20 +0100, David Paleino wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:37:36 +0100, Luca Capello wrote: > >> wicd has been choosen to be the default WiFi manager on Debian on the > >> Openmoko FreeRunner. Since I am working to solve bug #520014 [1], I > >> tried to install it without fulfilling its dependencies and I got an > >> IMHO completely unrelated error. > >> > >> [1] http://bugs.debian.org/520014 > > > > Yes, I'm aware of that bug, and am going to reply to it right after this > > mail. :) > > FWIW, I am already working on it, but since you mentioned wicd 1.6, I > will check to see if there is progress WRT udhcpc before going on with > my work. Were you working on 1.5.9? > [..] > >> debian-gta02:~# dpkg --force-all > >> -i /var/cache/apt/archives/wicd_1.5.9-5_all.deb > > > > Next time please try not to wrap lines ;) > > However, this seems related to #520014. I'll reply to the proper > > report. > > This is not a bug at all, since I need --force-all to override wicd > dependencies. Well, you misunderstood me. I mean that you needed to --force-all just because udhcpc wasn't in Depends. I know what you used --force-all for :P > >> Indeed, the /etc/network/interfaces for my FR contains more than that: > > > > On a side note: is that managed by anything FR-specific? > > No, it is like this because you want the USB networking to be always on, > thus you can *always* SSH into the FR as soon as you plug in the USB > cable (and, obviously, your laptop/desktop is properly configured). Understood. > Actually, IIRC the FreeSmartphone.Org framework daemon (in short, > fso-frameworkd) provides a way to switch the USB mode from network to > USB mass storage device, but I have never used that. Ok. > >> ===== > >> # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8) > >> [..] > >> > >> # Ethernet/RNDIS gadget (g_ether) > >> # ... or on host side, usbnet and random hwaddr > >> allow-hotplug usb0 > >> iface usb0 inet static > > > > I have a similar interface (eth0, static IP, [..]) on my laptop, and wicd > > works fine with that. I'll continue reading :) > > We are talking about wicd *installation* time, not runtime. Once wicd > is installed, everything works fine. I have never tried on my laptop, > but I will bet the error would be the same, again when *installing* wicd. Yes, sorry for not being clearer before. > >> The correct behavior should be to check each interface status and act > >> accordingly. This however *only* for the interfaces the admin wants to be > >> managed by wicd: in my case, it is clear that usb0 does not belong to this > >> group (and IIRC network-manager would skip it). > > > > Why should it skip it? Because it is declared as "static" in interfaces(5)? > > As already said, I have a static eth0 configured there, and wicd works fine > > with it. I don't think it should skip those, and if it would, the host > > could then have multiple connections active? (i.e. the static skipped ones > > and the wicd-managed one) -- wicd doesn't currently support that, and if > > needed, I'll talk with upstream for its implementation. > > Let me clear here: all these network/connetion managers (thus > network-manager, wicd, etc.) should do only what I ask them to do. Sure. > If I want one interface to be managed by them, well, the solution > network-manager adopted seems to be the best one: the interface should > be listed as "auto" in /etc/network/interfaces or not listed at all. > According to /usr/share/doc/wicd/README.Debian, I thought wicd behaves > the same, which is not the case. > > This is another bug, which however comes before the one in the subject: > if wicd just skips everything I manually configured, then I would not > have experienced the bug in the subject. Well, I believe that totally dropping this behaviour is wrong. I *do* want also my static wired interface to be shown, so as I can ifup/ifdown it from the same GUI as other wireless networks. However, I think that an option providing this feature could be provided. I mean, auto-skip those (as to be compatible towards NM), and provide an option to show them as well. If you happen to be IRCing right now, we could have a chat about the bugs you filed. You can find me both on OFTC/Freenode (hanska). Ciao, David -- . ''`. Debian maintainer | http://wiki.debian.org/DavidPaleino : :' : Linuxer #334216 --|-- http://www.hanskalabs.net/ `. `'` GPG: 1392B174 ----|---- http://snipr.com/qa_page `- 2BAB C625 4E66 E7B8 450A C3E1 E6AA 9017 1392 B174
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