On 10/18/2014 12:12 PM, Felix Natter wrote:
> the good news is I have received a mail from a Microsoft employee
> (unfortunately late on Friday) inviting me on a call regarding
> use of the Bing logo in jmapviewer.
> I will make that call on Monday morning and maybe we will be able to
> agree on a free license that I can put in debian/copyright and thus I
> can re-include bing_maps.png

If they license the logo under a DFSG compatible license that would be
great. And making our lives much easier.

> But if MS decides the logo must not be included in jmapviewer
> then I'm afraid I *must* remove BingAerialTileSource.java from
> jmapviewer and apply the attached patch [1] to 0.0.svn7480+dfsg1-2,
> removing Bing support from JOSM. Otherwise jmapviewer may be moved to
> non-free because it contains Bing support but not the logo [2].

I'm not sure that the alternative is that you *must* remove the Bing
support from jmapviewer.

The logo referenced by the BrandLogoUri in the attribution REST-call be
fine the use instead of the bing_map.png included in jmapviewer. As
mentioned by Martin Krüger:


The Bing license says:

and if the required logos and copyright notices are not
included in the service generated content, you shall add the logos and
copyright notices provided by Microsoft to the service generated content
as described in the SDKs

Since the attribution REST-call includes the logo in its generated
content, downloading and using that instead of adding it in jmapviewer
itself seems to comply with the license.

> --> can we agree on this?

In the interest of our JOSM users, doing our best to prevent the removal
of Bing support in jmapviewer should be our priority.

Please discuss the BrandLogoUri solution with Microsoft in your call,
that seems to be the preferred solution to keep jmapviewer and its rdeps
in main, while also complying with the Bing license terms.

While my brief tests with your patch show that JOSM works fine without
Bing support, it's a major loss of functionality. MapBox Satellite and
other freely usable satellite imagery is not on par with the Bing imagery.

Kind Regards,


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