-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Hello Michael,
Michael Koch schrieb: > Hello Kai, > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 11:30:22PM +0200, Kai Wb. wrote: >> Package: eclipse-platform >> Version: 3.2.1-6 >> Severity: important >> Justification: Renders package unusable for normal (new/inexperienced) users > > Please report such bugs against the latest version. I'll keep that in mind for the future. >> This package is the base-package for several standalone packages like >> eclipse-cdt. And if you install e.g. eclipse-cdt it's only based on >> eclipse-platform. But eclipse-platform brings no script/program for running >> eclipse (nothing is installed to /usr/bin which means a normal user expects >> to >> install eclipse-cdt and have a running eclipse-system which is startable via >> the >> normal commands (in this case that would be eclipse on the shell or via the >> preferred GUI (e.g. KDE)). >> >> This problem is made worse by the fact that no documentation accompanies this >> package. >> >> This results in four possible approaches (as far as I can see) for resolving >> this problem: >> 1) raise eclipse from recommends (this should maybe forwarded to >> eclipse-cdt/-jdt/-...) to depends or >> 2) integrate the binaries into eclipse-platform or >> 3) create eclipse-bin package on which all plugins like CDT depend or >> 4) state clearly in the package-description of the plugins, that eclipse is >> required for running them. >> >> Again: this is not a problem for experienced users but for people who want to >> have a start with Debian (today I encountered this problem when helping a >> friend >> of mine). >> >> If you need further information, feel free to contact me. > > I'm not sure about this. eclipse-platform is just a package to provide > some core functionality to be used by other packages based on the > code. The basic idea is that eclipse-cdt and such plugins depend on > eclipse and not on eclipse-platform. If they want to have their own > environment they should provide it. Perhaps I'm missing something. Hm, I see your point. And this was no problem for me, but a friend of mine who is quite new to Debian installed eclipse-cdt and thought that Debian/dpkg would solve all dependencies for him. Which is the normal behaviour. But all the plugins he required depended only on eclipse-platform and the description reads that it provides the "Eclipse Platform" and it is the "base for all eclipse plug-ins". Which is easily interpreted as "I have to select eclipse-cdt and get an eclipse-installation with CDT-support". Maybe this bug should be redirected to the plug-ins because they depend only on eclipse-platform. Eventually you could clarify the description of the package, so everyone sees clearly that he needs eclipse for a running installation. Greetings, Kai - -- Kai Wasserbäch (Kai Wasserbaech) E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber (debianforum.de): Drizzt URL: http://wiki.debianforum.de/Drizzt_Do%27Urden GnuPG: 0xE1DE59D2 0600 96CE F3C8 E733 E5B6 1587 A309 D76C E1DE 59D2 (http://pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de/pks/lookup?search=0xE1DE59D2&fingerprint=on&hash=on&op=vindex) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQGVAwUBRyEBv6MJ12zh3lnSAQqNPQv+LNA/zU06MlD3A1rCxV4d6/lF3THOpBT7 B4JdrF0TMjvNjaYq1zyBRbC+RFwJxhVf0vVdT3TQs1sZbhl0lBYkNQuHhf7oRWCJ RvgRfTmvwfsY9F6CzTZn667Iepq8lvN+niSqCBsLgZ+HbhMs1U8ZsJJUhM8Sj1KG D353+aDTjbR+UP6Dz9MBhdrHHFmPh5ykkLuK69xZq+be7QrNrpQm8uxI5zeUR2+n tMsiGDuzzy1sgY1Vm1u4EgyRR6sXI2zAZWk/cRRTDeZUKE0iopmY4LJTN8L5HINg pkH4q99kSdV/48IVo6tu4nFBVppUoA2rj87f7Zg8fCeZiWuE8P+oW8F9SZKn3a/q Xf/nvzu4vze5UCGvbYTOs6N1rgmMzLJrv/Gwlw+GWV7bTeB0jc86tV5BOojXyw4X DBpTga0w2nXoJ6+gw60gpnYMoYo0PmkMJs5XGNmfRd7IJN13TS3zvkwk19WhPGuS rx9qK3yqc72FQ+iRS9uPn5T/x6X1PPdr =E82y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ pkg-java-maintainers mailing list [email protected] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-java-maintainers
