Hi Pascal, On 09.01.2015 19:43, Pascal Rapicault wrote: > Hi, > > My name is Pascal Rapicault. I'm a long time committer on the Eclipse > platform, and I've recently been tasked by Ericsson to: > 1 - bring new versions of Eclipse to debian > 2 - make sure the experience of using eclipse on debian is good (from an > installation pov) > 3 - make sure the user can get multiple versions of Eclipse installed at > the same time but not all merged (e.g. IDE for C/C++, IDE for Java, etc.) > 4 - find a way to streamline the push of Eclipse to debian
Thank your for your interest in Eclipse and the state of Java packages in Debian. I suggest we continue this discussion on debian-java since this is the official list to discuss Java related development for Debian. pkg-java-maintainers is more appropriate when we deal with specific bug reports. > > I recently worked on a mechanism that creates debian packages from an > eclipse distro as a single package (all the jars and other files are in > one package) and is also able to collect the dependencies on native > packages. This works quite well since it makes it easy for the users to > get a functional starting point (IDE for Java, IDE for C/C++) that they > can customize, and allows multiple IDEs to be installed separately. > > Now a couple questions: > - Would the package I describe above be suitable to be made available in > the main debian repo? (I assume no, but I may as well check :)) > - What are the reasons why Eclipse is no longer updated, technical, > political, volunteers? > - What are the requirements to package Eclipse for debian? > - What are the most "painful" aspects of this process? The main reason why Eclipse has not been updated in a while is lack of volunteers. The approach to bundle all jars in one package is tempting but it's not the Debian way of doing things. You would have to make sure that all dependencies are packaged separately or that existing dependencies are updated in lock step and that this process does not break other packages which depend on them. We have to make sure that everything can be built from source. There are also several plugins for Eclipse which have to be updated as well. The current version is old but functional. At least this is my user experience. It is quite easy to install Eclipse on Debian but you are right that a newer version would be much appreciated. I suggest you look at the current packaging to get an idea of the current work flow. There are several documents for new maintainers which might be of interest for you listed on this page. https://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers We also have some guidelines for Java packages. https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/java-policy/ If you have specific packaging questions, always feel free to ask them on debian-java. Regards, Markus
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