s/false/true/ I copy/pasted the wrong line, sorry. That just turns on the screen reader.
On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 6:49 AM, Sune Vuorela <s...@vuorela.dk> wrote: > Hi peoples > > I'm told that the following spell should enable stuff some stuff for users: > > kwriteconfig5 --file kaccessrc --group ScreenReader --key Enabled 'false' > > I don't know where it makes sense to hook it in though. > > Thanks to Jeremy Whiting. > > /Sune > > On Tuesday 01 September 2015 18:55:01 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer > wrote: >> I'm resending the mail to the proper Qt/KDE list. >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- >> >> Subject: Re: Enabling accessibility stack by default in Qt4/Qt5 >> Date: Tuesday 01 September 2015, 18:50:43 >> From: Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer <perezme...@gmail.com> >> To: debian-qt-...@lists.debian.org >> CC: Samuel Thibault <sthiba...@debian.org>, debian- >> accessibil...@lists.debian.org >> >> On Tuesday 01 September 2015 01:39:51 Samuel Thibault wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > As discussed at DebConf [1,2,3], we would like to make the accessibility >> > stack enabled by default, so that all a user who needs it has to do is >> > just to start orca (while at the moment she has to find an option in >> > the control panel, and logout/login again, thus closing all running >> > applications...). >> > >> > For Qt4, this is implemented in the qt-at-spi package, which has been >> > developped mostly between 2009 and 2013. There doesn't seem to be much >> > activity there since early 2013. >> >> Kind of. See the last part of the first message in: >> >> <https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-47653?focusedCommentId=288544&page=co >> m.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-28854 >> 4> >> >> And the following comments. I'll try to get at it as soon as possible, but >> not before the gcc5 transition ends. >> >> > For Qt5, this is implemented directly in the Qt core, and seems to be >> > actively maintained and improved. >> >> Right. >> >> > So it seems safer to enable accessibility in Qt5 than in Qt4, but for >> > now it seems to me that most Debian applications are still using Qt4, >> > so people will mostly need Qt4 accessibility. >> >> Well, that's changing. And will change a lot after the gcc5 transition. >> We are retiring qt4's webkit in Stretch, and will do our best to try to get >> most apps ported to Qt5 (ideally killing Qt4 in the process). >> >> > Considering that we >> > are just at the beginning of the Stretch development, perhaps we can >> > try to enable accessibility by default in both Qt4 and Qt5, see how >> > well this goes, and at worse not enable it by default for Qt4 if the >> > possibly-revealed bugs become really not solvable? >> >> I like the idea, but ~1 month after the gcc5 transition ends. We are also >> pushing KDE+Qt5 to the archive and have quite some problems with the >> transition, so it would be better to let the transition "dust" settle down >> before adding yet more sources of bugs. After that we should definitely give >> it a try IMO. >> >> > The way I see it is simply by making the at-spi2-core package define >> > QT_ACCESSIBILITY (for Qt4) and QT_LINUX_ACCESSIBILITY_ALWAYS_ON (for >> > Qt5) to 1 from a script in /etc/X11/Xsession.d. >> > >> > Is it OK with Qt people? >> >> Sounds like a good starting point. I see that /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90qt-a11y >> is provided by at-spi2-core. I think the a11y stuff in Qt5 is provided by >> libqt5core5, please feel free to file a wishlist bug to have a similar >> script provided by it. >> >> Now we should also consider Wayland and even pure console. Qt5 has been >> improving in this side (yes, it can draw a GUI without X and without the >> need to recompile anything). I don't know if a11y is present in those >> cases, but if it is it would also be good to check them. >> >> Kinds regards, Lisandro. > > -- > I didn’t stop pretending when I became an adult, it’s just that when I was a > kid I was pretending that I fit into the rules and structures of this world. > And now that I’m an adult, I pretend that those rules and structures exist. > - zefrank > > -- > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk