Op 08-08-17 om 00:57 schreef Daniel Kahn Gillmor:> On Mon 2017-08-07
19:57:41 +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
>> I did now as root:
>> dpkg-divert --local --rename --divert \
>>   /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-gpg.desktop-disable \
>>   --add /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-gpg.desktop
>>
>> And I logged out and in again. Now I can use Enigmail, but it works not
>> really nice. Before I could turn-on encrypting and signing using the
>> menu. Now it says default "encrypt (auto)" and it's not clear if it's
>> encrypting or not. If I click on it, it says "encrypt" without "(auto)"
>> and then it works, but I cannot turn it off anymore using the menu. But
>> maybe this is new and normal.
> 
> Are you talking about during message composition?

Yes.

> there is a big enigmail toolbar that should be at the top of each
> composition window.  it has two buttons, one for signing, and one for
> encryption.  those buttons should be very clear whether they're selected
> or not.  If you don't have the toolbar, maybe its been customized away?

That's possible.

> can you do "View | Toolbars | Enigmail Toolbar" ?

This helps!

> I think maybe the other report that you're making here is that the
> checkboxes on thunderbird 53 menus on jessie are not visible.

Correct.

> I can confirm that:

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> I've cloned this bug to document that problem and bring it to the
> attention of the thunderbird devs.

Nice to hear.

>> So I think what other people with this probleme have to do is:
>> ---------
>> echo "use-agent" >> ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf
>>
>> sudo dpkg-divert --local --rename --divert \
>>   /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-gpg.desktop-disable \
>>   --add /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-gpg.desktop
>>
>> logout and login again.
>> ---------
> 
> That sounds plausible.  i could even consider shipping the
> dpkg-diversion in the jessie version of enigmail, if the gnome-keyring
> maintainers are OK with it.  (or they could ship an update in jessie
> that disables it too)

Maybe think about it. A message after the upgrade of Enigmail would be
an simple alternative.

> But really, users should be encouraged to upgrade to stretch :)
I have many customers who buy a laptop with Debian from me, but do not
come when there is a new version. And organizations what cannot upgrade
before much testing. Jessie has security support, and that is important.

With regards,
Paul van der Vlis

-- 
Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen
https://www.vandervlis.nl/

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