* Fabian Greffrath (fab...@greffrath.com) wrote:

  |>  Maybe you've got a wild mixture of old and new snd packages installed on 
  |>  your system. Please post the result of "dpkg -l snd\*".

Sorry to be slow (work got in the way) and thank you very much for your help. 
is the output of dpkg -l snd\.*:

dpkg -l snd\*
Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name                  Version       Description
ii  snd                   11.6-1        Sound file editor
un  snd-dmotif            <none>        (no description available)
un  snd-dmotif-alsa       <none>        (no description available)
ii  snd-doc               11.6-1        Sound file editor (documentation)
ii  snd-gtk               7.18-2.2      Sound file editor (GTK+ user interface)
un  snd-gtk-alsa          <none>       (no description available)
un  snd-gtk-jack          <none>       (no description available)
un  snd-gtk-pulse         <none>       (no description available)
un  snd-smotif            <none>       (no description available)
ii  sndfile-programs      1.0.21-2      Sample programs that use libsndfile
ii  sndfile-tools         1.03-2        A collection of programs for operating 
on sound files

Alessio Treglia <ales...@debian.org> wrote:

  |> snd-gtk and snd-alsa are virtual packages provided by snd-gtk-{jack,pulse}.

I understood that these were virtual packages, but what seems to be new is that 
can't now run snd unless you use either jackd or pulseaudio. And as far as I can
see at least, this is an undocumented change.

Meanwhile, snd-gtk is still available in the respositories, as of version 

apt-cache policy snd-gtk
  Installed: 7.18-2.2
  Candidate: 7.18-2.2
  Version table:
 *** 7.18-2.2 0
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny/main Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

aptitude show snd-gtk
Package: snd-gtk                         
State: installed
Automatically installed: no
Version: 7.18-2.2
Priority: optional
Section: sound
Maintainer: Guenter Geiger (Debian/GNU) <gei...@debian.org>
Uncompressed Size: 2,748k
Depends: snd (>= 7.18-2.2), guile-1.6-libs, libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.20.0),
libc6 (>= 2.6.1-1), libcairo2 (>=
         1.4.0), libfftw3-3, libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0),
         libgl1-mesa-glx | libgl1, libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.14.0),
         libglu1-mesa | libglu1, libgsl0ldbl (>= 1.9), libgtk2.0-0 (>=
         2.12.0), libgtkglext1,
         libguile-ltdl-1, libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0), libjack0 (>= 0.103.0),
         libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.18.2),
         libqthreads-12, libsamplerate0, libsm6, libx11-6,
         libxcomposite1 (>= 1:0.3-1), libxcursor1 (>
         1.1.2), libxdamage1 (>= 1:1.1), libxext6, libxfixes3 (>=
         1:4.0.1), libxi6, libxinerama1, libxmu6,
         libxrandr2 (>= 2:1.2.0), libxrender1, libxt6
Conflicts: snd-dmotif, snd-dmotif-alsa, snd-smotif, snd-gtk-alsa
Replaces: snd (< 5.10), snd-dmotif, snd-dmotif-alsa, snd-smotif, snd-gtk-alsa
Provides: snd-gtk-alsa
Provided by: snd-gtk-jack, snd-gtk-pulse
Description: Sound file editor (GTK+ user interface)
 Snd is a powerful sound file editor that can be customized and
 extended using the Scheme programming language. 
 URL: http://www-ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/ 
 This package contains the files for the GTK+ user interface.

Tags: devel::lang:scheme, interface::x11, role::program,
scope::application, uitoolkit::gtk, use::editing,
      use::viewing, works-with::audio, x11::application

But if it's now possible in Debian to use snd only if one also uses either 
jackd or
pulseaudio, surely that should be documented somewhere (as far as I can see, it
wasn't true before).

I did try to install first jackd and then pulseaudio (along with their 
snd-gtk-{jack,pulse} packages), but I still couldn't get snd to work. I couldn't
find any relevant documentation; the contents of /usr/share/doc/snd-gtk-jack is
just this:

  total used in directory 140 available 46325772
  drwxr-xr-x    2 root root  4096 Jun 21 21:40 .
  drwxr-xr-x 2225 root root 90112 Jun 21 21:40 ..
  -rw-r--r--    1 root root  5626 Jun  6 11:46 changelog.Debian.gz
  -rw-r--r--    1 root root 30038 Jun  4 06:23 changelog.gz
  -rw-r--r--    1 root root  1859 Jun  6 11:46 copyright

none of which tells me how I should make jackd and snd talk to each other. 

But thanks for listening and thanks for your help, and thanks for all of your 


PS the kernel version is: 2.6.32-5-686; 
   alsa is 1.0.23+dfsg-1 from testing/unstable

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