On Tuesday 17 August 2010 17:09:25 Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 03:40:37PM -0400, Andres Mejia wrote:
> >On Monday 16 August 2010 06:32:59 Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> >> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 08:19:40 (CEST), Andres Mejia wrote:
> >> > On Tuesday 10 August 2010 23:38:09 Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 14:39:19 (EDT), Andres Mejia wrote:
> >> >> > Is there any progress with getting libcrystalhd2 into Debian? I
> >> >> > would like to help if that's alright.
> >> >> 
> >> >> just curious, is this a driver package? what kind of hardware does
> >> >> it support, and how big is the expected userbase?
> >> > 
> >> > This is just for packaging the library. Driver is in mainstream
> >> > kernel as of 2.6.34 so there's no need for us to package that.
> >> > Firmware can't be included because it's under a non-free license.
> >> > Here's the firmware license.
> >> 
> >> Ah, makes sense. Thanks for the explanation.
> >> 
> >> I think this package makes most sense for our team if at least two
> >> members of our team can actually test and use those cards. This
> >> requires running a 2.6.34 kernel and using this firmware. Otherwise
> >> I'm not so sure.
> >
> >Well, I don't have the necessary hardware to test myself either. Shall
> >I go ahead and place this under collab-maint and ask debien-mentors for
> >a sponser?
> Huh?!?
> If you succeed at that, you've just proven exactly why I dislike the
> sponsor system:  People not really responsible about some packages let
> others also not really responsible put them into debian.
> The sponsor system wasn't designed to loosen responsibility but in
> effect it (sometimes) does that.
> No - please do not try to get a package into Debian which you do not
> care about yourself, make sure yourself works properly, and intend
> yourself to maintain in the future to keep working properly.
> Sorry if I sound rough.  I really really appreciate efforts - also
> contributions other than properly packaged and maintained packages.  I
> just really want it perfectly clear what "package maintainance" is.
> Kind regards,
>   - Jonas

I never said I didn't care about this package. I'm packaging this because it's 
a dependency for xbmc, and one of xbmc's upstream devs is also upstream dev 
for crystalhd. It's really only him that I know personally who can test this 
package properly, and I don't have reason not to believe crystalhd is 
thouroughly tested.

I'm essentially packaging crystalhd for him. Not all devs know how to package 
software for Debian, and even fewer know how to do it right.

And about my last email, it's just a suggestion anyway. I'm not sure what's 
best either, whether to team maintain it, even though it's possible nobody in 
the team has the necessary hardware to test this package. Like I said, I only 
have the word of one of my fellow devs for xbmc to go with (whether crystalhd 
is properly tested or not).

Andres Mejia

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