Hi,

The problem is in my experience that even if you make a menu with
alternative additional sub menus most packagers create their launchers to
strict freedesktop.org standards and the end user or distributor has to
manually edit and allocate launchers to the correct submenu. In AV Linux I
have a heavily customized menu built to the freedesktop standards and have
heavily modified /etc/xdg/applications.menu but if there is a new or 3rd
party package I haven't prepared for it still ends up in the wrong place.
I think getting something like this to work on all D.E's and with a
variety of package sources would be next to impossible.

Just my .02 input....
-GLEN

> On 12/07/2010 04:33 PM, rosea.grammostola wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> When working with Multimedia / Proaudio on Linux | Debian, you have a
>> lot of small packages installed pretty soon (one task one tool). With
>> as consequence a very long list in the menu part for multimedia
>> packages. Ubuntu Studio tries to make the situation better by
>> providing a 'audioproduction' and 'videoproduction' menu. In my view
>> this isn't always a good solution cause some packages are in the wrong
>> part, displayed twice and most of the installations do still have a
>> long list of applications.
>>
>> A quick look at Tango Studio showed that they have more menu parts,
>> one for audio mixing plugins and synths etc.
>>
>> http://tangostudio.tuxfamily.org/images/stories/tangostudio-karmasutra.png
>>
>>
>>
>> I thought, isn't there a way to make a better menu by the Debian
>> Multimedia Team? A bit like Ubuntu Studio has done e.g. an extra menu
>> package you can install if you want to do Multimedia production, but
>> then better?
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> \r
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Got no comments so far...
>
> This is what I'm talking about (brainstorming):
>
> Before: http://img37.imageshack.us/i/desk1007.png/
>
> After: http://img141.imageshack.us/i/desk1008.png/
>
>
> I split up Multimedia (players) and Sound & Video (production)
>
> http://img11.imageshack.us/i/desk1009.png/
>
>
> At this point I have 7 extra entries in Sound & Video
>
>    1. Audio Editing (Editing, Mixing, Mastering: Audacity, jack-rack,
>       lv2rack, guitarix etc )
>    2. JACK (Jack and Alsa tools like qjackctl, japa, jack_mixer and
>       software mixers for alsa audio cards for example)
>    3. MIDI (Midi tools like Vkeybd, qsynth)
>    4. Musician (Musescore notation editor, solfege, Chordata, gtklick etc)
>    5. Recording (DAW: ardour, qtractor)
>    6. Synth (phasex, yoshimi, puredata, Qutecsound etc.)
>    7. Video Editing (pitivi, xjadeo, kino etc)
>
> I tried to keep it as simple as possible, not to many entries and pretty
> broad areas cause every Debian Audio production app should be able to be
> entered in a certain entry...
>
> If we want this, this means we should make a DebianMultimedia menu like
> the Ubuntustudio-menu package. Moreover, we should make little additions
> to the Desktop files of the Multimedia applications and add new
> categories.
>
> A other thing that has to be thought of, is how this all applies to
> other WMs like KDE, XFCE etc. All though, if you create a
> DebianMultimedia-menu, people are free to install it or not...
>
> Waiting for your response.
>
> Best regards,
>
> \r
>
>
>
>
>
>
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