On Dec 25, 2010, at 6:34 AM, Felipe Sateler wrote:

On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 14:55, Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at> wrote:

On Dec 24, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:

On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 02:10:27PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote:

On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 00:27, Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at >

I just pushed some changes to pd-cyclone that create a split-out binary package called 'cyclist'. As far as I understand it, I don't need to ITP this new 'cyclist' package since its split off of the pd-cyclone source
package, but it does need to go thru the NEW queue.

'cyclist' is a command line utility for converting file formats that is built as part of the 'cyclone' library. Its the only thing in 'pd-cyclone' that installs into /usr/bin and has a man page, so it made sense to me to split it out. Then it can be installed on its own without puredata or any
Pd libraries.

Its ready for a sponsor/uploader if you are ready for it. :)

It seems to me there isn't much point in having the cyclist binary
without pd. What is the use case of converting Max/MSP patches into text, if
not for importing into pd?

A search engine, perhaps?

It would be useful to Max/MSP users separate from Pd. And perhaps also useful to other computer music people. The binary file format is really only for Max/MSP, but the text file format is quite old, and used by a number of other members of the Max family. Pd and jMax for example, which are free software, and Max/FTS and Max/ISPW which are specialty proprietary
versions of Max.

OK. The Recommends on cyclist by pd-cyclone is not clear to me. If
these tools have different use cases, then maybe recommends is too
strong a relationship.

Since the central goal of the 'cyclone' library is for running Max/MSP files in Pd, and Max/MSP patches are usually distributed in the .mxb binary format, I think it makes sense to Recommend: cyclist so that 'cyclone' users can translate .mxb files to .pat/.mxt files, which Pd can directly read.



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