On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 08:19:50AM +0100, Adrian Knoth wrote:
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:29:35PM +1100, Luke Yelavich wrote:
If the team decides to not maintain this package, then we need to either make sure the package gets a maintainer in Debian from somewhere, or, we talk to Upstream about alternative solutions. I understand and accept in advance any reasons given to not take over maintainership of dbus-c++.

Let me add the following statement from ffado-devel to the discussion:


maybe the unbundling of dbus-c++ was premature. Upstream appear not to do any releases nor do they seem to have arrived at a stable API yet. And downstreams have source incompatible versions of it or don't have it at all.

If we arrive at the conclusion that dbus-c++ is unmaintainable, I'm happy to re-add the embedded dbus-c++ bits upstream. Though I have commit rights, we could also do it locally with a quilt patch.

The very fact of one other package using the same library is to me proof that we (Debian) should maintain dbus-c++ as a separate package despite upstreams possibly feeling it relevant to ship it internally.

I would certainly hope that upstreams, if internalizing, does so without a) making it difficult to instead link against a system shared library or b) forking it by making local hacks to local copy of dbus-c++ code.

I find it inappropriate for this team to maintain dbus-c++ - it is not specific to Multimedia.

I would be happy to join forces with you, Luke, on maintaining dbus-c++ at the collab-maint area or in some other team more appropriate for this. I won't call it "sponsoring" as that is easily associated with "you are responsible, I am your mentor" which might (or might not) be the initial situation but should not the atmosphere we are aiming at - neither here in the Debian Multimedia team nor in another team formed for the maintainance of dbus-c++.

As you may have noticed from earlier conversations here on the list, I do have some strong principles in the way I handle packages: I use CDBS, not short-form dh. You need not be fluent in CDBS due to this - I am ok with either guiding you or taking care of the parts directly tied to juggling CDBS, but if you for some reason have _opposite_ principles then obviously you are better off teaming up with someone else :-)

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