On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Reinhard Tartler <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Fabian Greffrath <[email protected]> wrote: >> Am Dienstag, den 04.06.2013, 07:37 +0200 schrieb Reinhard Tartler: >>> It still seems to lack a 2nd person to back up the package in the team. >> >> Hm, I question the purpose of this rule. It seems to me to keep useful >> packages out of the archive; packages that I do not sign up for as an >> Uploader, because I do not know about their existence, because they are >> not in the archive... > > Well, it depends what you want pkg-multimedia to be. > > A package without a second supporter is de facto not team maintained, > but maintained by a single person. You do not need a team for such > packages, on contrary, they just add overhead to the team (as in, PET, > mailing lists, team RC bug count, etc.). In these cases, I think you > are much better off with keeping them in collab-maint. > > My motivation for enforcing this rule is to avoid pkg-multimedia > becoming a specialized QA Team. I mean, seriously, if you want that, > then please put "Debian QA Team" as maintainer. > > Also, please consider the bus factor. Imagine some pkg-multimedia > member, who has introduced 20 packages to pkg-multimedia, gets hit by > a bus. What is the team supposed to do with the packages? Since nobody > else didn't even bother to put himself as uploader, it is quite likely > that his 20 packages end up unmaintained. Again, orphaning the package > seems like a good answer to that, which in this case is unlikely to > happen since de jure, the package is labeled as "team maintained", > although de facto, nobody cares for it. That's why consider packages > without 2nd uploader as harmful to the team. > > I would therefore suggest to stage packages without maintainer in > collab-maint, and as soon as a 2nd pkg-multimedia member agrees to > support it, just move the repo to pkg-multimedia, and good.
I agree with the principle behind the rule, but perhaps the rule is not the best way to enforce the principle? Brainstorm follows, posibly lousy idea: Change the rule to say that packages maintained by the team cannot have less than 2 uploaders, but first uploads are allowed to have only one uploader. This could help in breaking the vicious loop presented by Fabian. Then, have a daily cron job scan the archive for packages maintained by the team, and flag packages with less than 2 uploaders older than N days. Send the resulting list to the team list. If nobody wants to help comaintain a package for M days, the package should be moved to collab-maint or some other area. The principle is similar to the wnpp mails sent to -devel. -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler _______________________________________________ pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list [email protected] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-multimedia-maintainers
