Am 04.05.2018 um 18:24 schrieb Michael Gold:
> On Fri, May 04, 2018 at 18:02:09 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
>> I guess you have two options here:
>> Either drop gid=4 from your mount flags or you add
>> SupplementaryGroups=adm to systemd-logind.service
> 
> I haven't figured out how to override that .service file locally yet,
> but I'm trying to add SupplementaryGroups=adm.

Use a drop-in config as described in the Arch wiki:

For user sessions to work correctly, an exception needs to be added for
systemd-logind:

/etc/systemd/system/systemd-logind.service.d/hidepid.conf containing

[Service]
SupplementaryGroups=proc

> If I just drop 'gid=4' I won't be able to use "pidin aux" myself.
> 
>> Why adm is a suitable group for that purpose is not clear to me, but
>> that's besides the point.
>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Security#hidepid suggests to use a
>> dedicated group like proc which makes more sense to me.
> 
> Kind of, but that's not a standard Debian group.  adm is, and does make
> sense based on the documentation (also note that johnw independently had
> the same idea):
>       https://wiki.debian.org/SystemGroups
>       "adm: Group adm is used for system monitoring tasks. Members of this
>        group can read many log files in /var/log, …
>        staff: Allows users to add local modifications … Compare with group
>        'adm', which is more related to monitoring/security."
> 

Well, I think granting read access to the syslog files (and the journal
fwiw) as a side effect of granting read access to /proc makes group adm
a poor choice. Those should be treated separately.

A dedicated "proc" group, as the Arch wiki suggests, makes much more
sense to me.

Regards,
Michael
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