Your message dated Sat, 28 Nov 2015 22:41:25 +0100
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and subject line Re: Bug#806533: systemd-sysv: /sbin/shutdown is missing -F 
option (force fsck on reboot)
has caused the Debian Bug report #806533,
regarding systemd-sysv: /sbin/shutdown is missing -F option (force fsck on 
reboot)
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Package: systemd-sysv
Version: 228-2
Severity: important

This option seems to have recently disappeared; see here, for example:

http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/shutdown8.html

It seems to be related to systemd; perhaps it's supposed to be an
"improvement".

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=268935

There are a wide variety of situations in which you might want to force
filesystem checks on reboot, which is why this option existed in the first
place. There is no valid reason for removing it -- it's OPTIONAL.

Can we please have it back?



-- System Information:
Debian Release: stretch/sid
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  APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'unstable'), 
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Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 4.2.0-1-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_CA.utf8, LC_CTYPE=en_CA.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

Versions of packages systemd-sysv depends on:
ii  systemd  228-2

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Dear Ian,

Am 28.11.2015 um 15:48 schrieb Ian Bruce:
> This option seems to have recently disappeared; see here, for example:
> 
> http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/shutdown8.html

The man page shipped by systemd is a different one and doesn't list -F
as an option, because...

> It seems to be related to systemd; perhaps it's supposed to be an
> "improvement".
> 
> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=268935
> 
> There are a wide variety of situations in which you might want to force
> filesystem checks on reboot, which is why this option existed in the first
> place. There is no valid reason for removing it -- it's OPTIONAL.
> 
> Can we please have it back?

it was removed on purpose. -F creates a flag file on the file system
which should be checked. For a file system which potentially already has
issues, doing a write is probably not a good idea.

Systemd still has legacy support for /forcefsck. So if you create that
file manually, systemd will respect that. You need to do that by hand
though. The reasoning here is, to make the user aware that this causes a
write operation on the file system, the -F switch hides that.

That said, touch /forcefsck is discouraged and a better mechanism is to
pass systemd.fsck=force on the kernel command line.
For more details, see man [email protected].

In summary, the change is deliberate and there exist better
alternatives. Thus closing this bug report.

Regards,
Michael

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