On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 1:16 AM, Austin English <[email protected]> wrote: > On Jan 2, 2016 9:59 PM, "Michael Gilbert" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 12:16 AM, Austin English <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > On Jan 2, 2016 9:07 PM, "Michael Gilbert" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 12:00 AM, Austin English wrote: >> >> > Yes, in theory. In practice, many users don't report their >> >> > distribution, >> >> > and many developers ignore reports without the needed information. >> >> > >> >> > Why is it being overriden in the first place? >> >> >> >> Because when everything is working normally (the vast majority of the >> >> time for most users) debug output is just noise. >> >> >> >> For similar reasons debian puts debugging symbols into separate >> >> packages that the user has to explicitly decide to install. >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Mike >> > >> > The vast majority of software that I run on Debian outputs noise, either >> > to >> > stdout, stderr, or ~/.xsession-errors. I don't see why wine should be a >> > special case in that regard. >> >> They all of course violate rule 11 of the unix philosophy, but that's >> a choice that the developers of those projects are free to make. >> >> Wine is also free to make that choice, and on debian we choose to be a >> bit more unixy than wine's default. > > Debian isn't unix ;). Should I file bugs then for any program that generates > terminal output? Firefox, LibreOffice, mousepad off the top of my head are > all guilty.
The mousepad output looks like a bug that should be fixed, so yes. iceweasel has no terminal output (firefox doesn't come from debian). Libreoffice is a complicated beast so that could be an uphill battle, but if someone cared enough, sure. > I honestly can't think of any non trivial GUI program on Debian > that doesn't generate some output. Is there a Debian policy that recommends > or requires this? No of course it isn't a policy, it is a philosophy. And of course philosophers have a tendency to disagree. Best wishes, Mike _______________________________________________ pkg-wine-party mailing list [email protected] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-wine-party
