On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 11:10:50AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quite a few places in the World have poor and/or expensive internet > access. Larger default desktop will hurt the most in developing > countries: non-techies gets discourages to use Debian at all, or when > using it may apply security fixes less often.
How poor is poor? I've been participating since having a theoretical 64KB/s cable connection, which in practice only did 3-5KB/s (provider: BART in Rotterdam)! A cd would take about 24 hours to download (net install was sometimes unreliable, so I preferred a cd). Having a poor connection means you get creative. I shared the cd's I downloaded, used rewritable to push the cost down, etc. I've checked http://explorer.netindex.com/maps which shows the Speed test results across the world. According to that site, the minimal speed I can see in various African countries is at least 0.75 Mbps. Much higher than the speed I was used to. Always having a slow connection changes means you're tolerance level is different. I used to download a cd in 24 hours. Nowadays the same takes maybe 35 seconds. I don't get the doom and gloom unless you're more clear. I work for an international shipping company btw, I am well aware of differences in the world. I'll ask a colleague for regularly travels all over Africa (TIA :-P) for comments, but suggest first to get a bit more concrete on what is expected. Further: Debian switched from *GNOME 2*. Any comparison of sizes should be done on GNOME 2 vs GNOME 3. -- Regards, Olav _______________________________________________ Pkg-xfce-devel mailing list [email protected] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-xfce-devel

