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Package: xfce4-session
Version: 4.10.1-10
I am setting up a Debian jessie system using sysvinit-core
instead of the default systemd, and the standard Xfce desktop
(via task-xfce-desktop).
When a normal user (created via adduser) is logged into the Xfce
desktop and opens the xfce4-session-logout dialog, the following
buttons are visible:
Log Out
Restart (greyed out)
Shut Down (greyed out)
This compares unfavorably to the same environment installed without
having removed systemd, in which case the following buttons are shown
(none greyed out):
Log Out
Restart
Shut Down
Suspend
Hibernate
I believe this issue may relate to policykit-1, which currently depends
on systemd and so is not present when systemd is removed. I've confirmed
that the group membership of the user (adding same to e.g. cdrom,
floppy, audio, dip, video, plugdev ...) does not help with the missing
log-out actions.
I did come across this page at the Xfce site...
http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-session/logout
...that describes setting up xfsm-shutdown-helper via sudo to allow
users to restart/etc. But this is a poor solution for a multi-user
system; assuming that two users have this access, one user logged
in via SSH could restart the system while the other is logged in at
the console.
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On jeu., 2015-02-19 at 15:00 -0500, Daniel Richard G. wrote:
> On Thu, 2015 Feb 19 17:54+0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> >
> > You *need* libpam-systemd if you want to have working permissions
> > setup through policykit.
>
> Okay, this is interesting. So libpam-systemd, despite the name, is still
> useful even if systemd is not present and SysV init is in use?
Yes.
>
> Would the fix then be for libpam-systemd to recommend systemd,
> rather than depend on it? I see that xfce4-session already
> recommends libpam-systemd.
No.
The dependencies are correct as they are right now, we already checked
that. If you really want to investigate all this dependency stack by
yourself, then please do, but we won't lose any more time on this.
The default setup is working just fine, and we especially setup
everything so users wouldn't be too confused. But if you voluntarily
mess with the things, it breaks, yes.
Regards,
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Yves-Alexis
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