2009/3/13 Aaron J. Seigo: > but i wouldn't ever even DARE try and do the sensible thing here and turn kmix > into a plasmoid that runs in a window that we can then also use on the desktop > because i fear, and and i think rightfully so, that people like you would just > block any such effort while shouting about how plasma is trying to take over > kde (whatever that means).
Hello everyone, I find it interesting, that you say that, Aaron. Or rather: it's about time, that these social or political issues get addressed. I don't see KDE as being in a very healthy state right now; quite the opposite actually. And the reason, in my point of view, is exactly the issue you name. I'd rather not go into what is wrong so much, or better yet, who is to blame. But talk about what we can do, today, to bring forward positive change in that matter. Basically we need to agree on and then communicate a common vision of where KDE is headed. We are lacking that. This vision could originate from inside the plasma project, but eventually will need to be discussed outside, too. >From that shared understanding it should be pretty obvious what plasma's role is for KDE, I hope. But again reaching conclusions about that will be a community effort. We could of course try to create a vision statement (again). Perhaps we have learned enough from our last attempt to get it right this time, but I could also imagine simply using plasma-mid as our vision statement. The advantage would be, that it is "written in a language" that KDE people can understand. The form factor is relatively unencumbered from antiquated thinking about what a computer ought to do and how it ought to do it. This is virgin soil. And it could be a fantastic display of our vision of KDE. (and it is something we planned to do anyway :-) So, what do you say? Do you agree, that we need to work harder to find a common purpose? How would you suggest we reach it? With a text, with plasma-mid, something else? Let me know what you think. michael _______________________________________________ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
