----- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung ----- > 2011/2/20 Martin Gräßlin <mgraess...@kde.org> > > > On Sunday 20 February 2011 22:30:01 Beat Wolf wrote: > > > Then leave it out during dev, but in when releasing. > > I wrote that in my initial mail about the config option. > > > > > > I just don't agree that for example nvidia will fix their drivers > > > just because kde does not work with some, probably older cards. > > They actually fixed quite some bugs after the 4.1 release. > > > > Concerning older cards: KWin will continue to work if the driver does > > not support compositing. It's only about enforcing if the driver > > supports it. > > > My driver "supports" compositing, but the workspace becomes almost > unusably slow when it's enabled (Unichrome integrated GPU), but it runs > mostly fine otherwise. We do not enable opengl compositing on such cards by default. We only support nvidia, ati and intel. > > Check, at least, the FPS rate and disable compositing if it's < 30 FPS > average. Warning! Myth! Warning! More frames is not better. The best possible framerate for kwin is 0 frames per second. We only repaint if a window gets damaged. The fps effect is always showing incorrect results - you have to know how it works to be able to interpret the data correctly. > > > > > But i know that i can't win that debate. But i just know that such a > > > decision will cause problems. > > We are lucky: we will see the results of GNOME Shell and Unity in > > April - enough time for us to adjust. > > > > > > Am Sonntag, 20. Februar 2011, um 22:19:53 schrieb Martin Gräßlin: > > > > On Sunday 20 February 2011 22:11:35 Beat Wolf wrote: > > > > > On this computer, using the binary nvidia drivers, i could enable > > > > > compositing. But due to some nvidia driver bugs, my computer > > > > > becomes slugish very fast, which means compositing is not an > > > > > option. > > > > > > > > > > i don't think that the x.org environment is stable enough to be > > > > > able > > to > > > > > remove a option that lets you work around bugs. > > > > > > > > bugs need to be fixed and not worked around. > > > > > > > > That is exactly one of the reasons why I want to have it disabled. > > > > It's just not an option that something like 4.5 happens ever > > > > again! We need > > to > > > > know problems during development and if devs tend to just turning > > > > of compositing it will happen again. > > > > > > > > > Beat Wolf > > > > > > > > > > Am Sonntag, 20. Februar 2011, um 22:06:24 schrieb Martin Gräßlin: > > > > > > On Sunday 20 February 2011 22:00:58 Davide Bettio wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 02/20/11 21:57, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > > > > > > No, while the KCM sucks it will still suck after those > > > > > > > > three options have been > > > > > > > > removed. It needs a proper redesign, but that is out of the > > scope > > > > > > > > of this thread ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't understand the point about removing enable/disable > > options. > > > > > > > > > > > > if we don't want to give the user the possibility to disable, > > > > > > we don't need an option to enable/disable. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's turn the question around: why should the user be able to > > enable > > > > > > or disable compositing? What would be a valid reason to do so? > > > > > > And keep in mind: with Wayland it will be impossible to turn > > > > > > off compositing, same in GNOME Shell, Unity and Mac OS X > > > > > > (don't know about Windows). > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Plasma-devel mailing list > > > > > Plasma-devel@kde.org > > > > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Plasma-devel mailing list > > > Plasma-devel@kde.org > > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Plasma-devel mailing list > > Plasma-devel@kde.org > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel > > > > > > > -- > Luiz Romário Santana Rios
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