Aleix, can you please explain to us why Mion Discover and Apper are two different things in principle?
Seems the Apper guys disagree. Cheers, Albert El Dilluns, 6 d'octubre de 2014, a les 22:46:49, Matthias Klumpp va escriure: > 2014-10-06 19:57 GMT+02:00 Albert Astals Cid <aa...@kde.org>: > > El Dilluns, 6 d'octubre de 2014, a les 01:30:47, Aleix Pol va escriure: > >> [...] > >> I don't expect to compete with Apper. Muon Discover is a software center > >> and that's the main solution I'm pushing here, as I explained in Plasma. > >> Apper is a package manager. That is, a way where we can display to our > >> end-users what software there's available and also lets us a couple of > >> tricks to get biased. > > I (as Apper contributor) would disagree with that - Daniel renamed > KPackageKit to Apper years ago to stress that Apper is not about > packages, but especially about applications. Unlike Muon or GNOME > Software, the goal for Apper is to manage packages and apps in one UI > though - and of course, Apper provides the session interface for > PackageKit, which Muon does not (yet?). > Does Muon work well with PackageKit on !Debian-based distros? I had > lots of trouble with porting the Ubuntu Software Center to PK, since > PK uses a completely different paradigm and API, compared to the > Aptdaemon interface the USC used, so it would have required a complete > rewrite. > Last time I looked at QApt, it looked slightly more similar to Aptd > compared to the PK API. > (I'll soon test Muon on Fedora by myself, but more from an "what can > be improved in AppStream?" PoV) > > >> I think this is very important, because it opens an opportunity to offer > >> the end-user the full KDE experience we've been talking about. So far, > >> the > >> way everyone had to expose software was by creating a (usually spin-off) > >> distribution where there was tons of software pre-installed. By providing > >> a > >> software center we open channels to communicate with the user where he > >> can > >> leverage on previous' users experience, as well as our own. > > > > I'm not sure I understand the difference between a "Software Center" and a > > "Package Manager", can you elaborate what is the difference? > > Software Center almost always means that it shows GUI apps instead of > packages, where "app" is more tightly defined as "stuff which ship a > .desktop file in share/applictions with Type=application". > Package Managers display all kinds of packages on the system, > including debug symbol packages and e.g. header packages. > The Software Centers are generally thought to be more end-user > friendly, while package managers have a technically advanced user as > target audience. > Cheers, > Matthias _______________________________________________ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel