> On Април 11, 2016, 8:45 преди обяд, Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > > otherwise kwindowsystem::self() is nullptr
> > 
> > how can KWindowSystem::self() be null? And why should that have anything to 
> > do with KWin? KWindowSystem does not depend on a window manager running.
> 
> Thomas Lübking wrote:
>     The entire thing sounds as if the problem would be that the session 
> restorage in kwin overrides the placement for restored windows (with the 
> restored position)
>     
>     That's however not a bug (at least it's intended) and I've no idea why 
> that's relevant to the weird geometry handling of SNI items (which looks 
> *faaaar* too complex - the position of remapped windows is usually maintained 
> by QWidget ...)
> 
> Anthony Fieroni wrote:
>     I saw the code, it looks like KWindowSystem not depend on Kwin, but Kwin 
> *must* be started *before* use of kwindowsystem. Thomas may right, because 
> setGeometry even not work on sessions restored app.
>     When session was finish if start apps with kmail --session session-id 
> everything wors fine.
> 
> Anthony Fieroni wrote:
>     Now, after Thomas comment, i even think only widget->show() must works 
> because widget has internal frameGeometry and position.
> 
> Martin Gräßlin wrote:
>     > but Kwin must be started before use of kwindowsystem
>     
>     no, really there is no reason for that. KWindowSystem doesn't depend on a 
> window manager running.

Then, correct KWin to kwindowsystem to start working. If there is no bug this 
will works on all cases -> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/127216/ but it's 
not.


- Anthony


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On Април 10, 2016, 10:46 след обяд, Anthony Fieroni wrote:
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> (Updated Април 10, 2016, 10:46 след обяд)
> 
> 
> Review request for kwin, Plasma, David Edmundson, Martin Gräßlin, and Thomas 
> Lübking.
> 
> 
> Repository: plasma-workspace
> 
> 
> Description
> -------
> 
> We must proceed with autoStart0 when kwin process is ended otherwise 
> kwindowsystem::self() is nullptr. Every restored session app cannot use 
> kwindowsystem. This depends of cpu speed, it can be faster enough to start wm 
> before ksmserver restore apps and kwindowsystem will be usable.
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
>   ksmserver/startup.cpp f118b55 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/127631/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> It's needed to fix this bug -> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/127216/
> I don't know how to proceed if kwin fails to start in every way, can we 
> process - i think not?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Anthony Fieroni
> 
>

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