ngraham added a comment.

  In D11308#227358 <https://phabricator.kde.org/D11308#227358>, @graesslin 
wrote:
  
  > In D11308#227332 <https://phabricator.kde.org/D11308#227332>, @ngraham 
wrote:
  >
  > > In D11308#227330 <https://phabricator.kde.org/D11308#227330>, @graesslin 
wrote:
  > >
  > > > @ngraham Let's try to not work against our distros. Yes we could change 
that because we are upstream, we set the default. The result would be distros 
swapping the wallpaper and we have unreadable text. This is something which 
will happen, I have been too long in this business to not expect otherwise. We 
want to provide a good experience for everyone. And that means this change just 
cannot go in, sorry about that.
  > > >
  > > > Sorry, we just cannot do a change which renders the text possibly 
unreadable on most systems.
  > >
  > >
  > > Do we know that the distros you mentioned currently do use wallpapers 
that will make white text unreadable, or is this a worry about the future?
  >
  >
  > I do not know how the situation is as I don't have tested all distros. But 
I also think that this is irrelevant. We have a technical problem here and that 
needs to be fixed.
  
  
  I very much agree that there is a technical problem in need of fixing. As you 
can see in https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369676, we're starting to scope 
out that work. The question is, does that work need to be done before this 
change can land? We can ensure that our upstream image looks good, and we can 
alert distros to the change and help them ensure that theirs do too. Plasma 
5.13 isn't being released for several more months, which gives us time to work 
with rolling release distros to ensure that they're not shipping a lock screen 
background that's unreadable. We have even more time for the fixed release 
distros like Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, and openSUSE Leap.  In particular it will 
be years before Debian stable gets Plasma 5.13.
  
  I volunteer to lead the distro outreach effort to ensure that distros don't 
ship with lockscreen backgrounds that make the text unreadable.
  
  And medium-term, we will fix the lock screen's UI in 
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369676 to eliminate the issue entirely.
  
  Does this sound like a sensible path forward, Martin?

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