Ed, lets wait what Dirk does before saying -1 ;-) On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 7:02 PM Ed Merks <ed.me...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'd be unhappy to see yet more deprecated "APIs", i.e., would > org.eclipse.core.runtime.ILog be deprecated? Consumers might start to feel > as if no API is really API anymore. Everything is just potentially in a > transient state on the path to ultimate perfection, along with the > ever-present concern about deletion. > > Of course I'm all for progress and improvements, so I'd not vote -1. And I > most certainly don't want to discourage progress or innovation. My biggest > concern is simply deprecation and deletion. > > > On 12.09.2019 18:13, Lars Vogel wrote: > > +1 > > Dirk Fauth <dirk.fa...@googlemail.com> schrieb am Do., 12. Sep. 2019, 18:07: >> >> Actually I would like to get rid of the multiple facades (FrameworkLog, >> RuntimeLog, etc. are all forwarding to the OSGi LogService. And with OSGi R7 >> it has improved and probably makes all the facades unnecessary. Why >> reinventing the wheel if the base has fixed the issues from the past? >> >> Lars Vogel <lars.vo...@vogella.com> schrieb am Do., 12. Sep. 2019, 17:44: >>> >>> I know that statement would trigger a reply. :-) >>> >>> I think Dirk's vision is to deprecate all other logging approaches or >>> fascade them. >>> >>> Would IMHO be nice to have one simple and fast way of logging. For example, >>> currently writing lots of entries to the error log can cause UI freezes. >>> >>> Mickael Istria <mist...@redhat.com> schrieb am Do., 12. Sep. 2019, 17:40: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 5:22 PM Lars Vogel <lars.vo...@vogella.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Having one logging solution would be great, as you pointed out it must >>>>> be simple for the IDE case and the e4 RCP case. >>>> >>>> >>>> As mentioned in the previous thread, there are already N ways of logging, >>>> so adding one more way won't make N+1 == 1. >>>> All the logging approach that are already in are most likely meant to stay >>>> as API, so before starting such refactoring, I think it needs to be >>>> verified how much value is to be expected from it. >>>> As spotted in the "only few committers care of know the details about >>>> logging", I think that most contributors don't really care about logging >>>> because while it might be not perfect, it just works fine in the current >>>> state and changing this wouldn't provide much added value to them. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> platform-dev mailing list >>>> platform-dev@eclipse.org >>>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe >>>> from this list, visit >>>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/platform-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> platform-dev mailing list >>> platform-dev@eclipse.org >>> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe >>> from this list, visit >>> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/platform-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> platform-dev mailing list >> platform-dev@eclipse.org >> To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from >> this list, visit >> https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/platform-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > platform-dev mailing list > platform-dev@eclipse.org > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from > this list, visit > https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/platform-dev > > _______________________________________________ > platform-dev mailing list > platform-dev@eclipse.org > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from > this list, visit > https://www.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/platform-dev
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