On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 11:28 AM S A <simeon.danailov.andr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> > Maybe it's the kind of refreshment we need for the IDE to look much
> leaner without really changing anything: shipping a different default
> layout, without toolbar, moving the run and perspective someplace else...?
>
> From what I've been told by developers using Eclipse for the first time,
> they would rather not use it because it's slow and unresponsive. A
> different UI layout might of course make a better first impression, but I
> doubt that impression will last.
>

Actually less visual widgets will most likely speed up the UI part if the
slowness is coming from it and not from the plugin logic.


>
> On Mon, 30 May 2022 at 10:34, Mickael Istria <mist...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Gayan,
>>
>> I've evolved my local workbench to look a bit more like the one you
>> suggested, hiding toolbars, making it fullscreen by default... So far so
>> good.
>> Maybe it's the kind of refreshment we need for the IDE to look much
>> leaner without really changing anything: shipping a different default
>> layout, without toolbar, moving the run and perspective someplace else...?
>> We could even make it default in the SDK as long as it's not breaking any
>> form of functionality/extensibility (sure it's disruptive, but not worse
>> and also not too hard for users to restore to previous state).
>>
>> Cheers,
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