On Debian there is a system in place to manage kernel modules - that's how they
support things like pcicma and alsa - using their kernel build scripts. A
version could also be built for each of the stock kernel images. Its a really
cool system and much better than any other I've seen.
thanks,
- Dale
On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 09:46:45PM -0500, Drew Northup wrote:
> The problem with binary packages is the explicit kernel version dependence.
> For instance: a module compiled on 2.2.13 won't run on 2.2.6 (& vice-versa)
> even with module versioning turned off _everywhere_. This means that any
> plex86 binaries must be part of an explicit distro
> _for_that_specific_kernel_ (not just the version--the actual compile) and
> that it must be recompiled for kernel recompiles of the same kernel (that
> even means two kernels of the same version, like two 2.2.6 kernels--I found
> this out by trial & crash). Because of these really touchy issues, it is
> best to not even attempt a binary distro of plex86 for any LINUX (on Windows
> it may be possible though.....).
>
> Drew Northup, N1XIM
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> > Of Dale Thatcher
> > Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 4:43 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [plex86] Debian package
> >
> >
> > There are packages pending for both plex86 and bochs. No point
> > in duplicating
> > someone else's work...
> >
> > Out of interest why would binary packages be bad?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > - Dale
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 11:11:51AM -0800, Hausheer, Geoffrey wrote:
> > > The problem is that the license doesn't allow for modification
> > of the BIOS,
> > > and that the license says something about "may only be
> > used/distributed for
> > > use with plex86/bochs and be used only in the manner intended" (that's a
> > > summary not verbatim) which debian can't enforce, and thus
> > can't distribute.
> > > The Debian guys have very strict policies about what licenses are
> > > compatible, and the VGA BIOS didn't fit. So there were questions about
> > > splitting the BIOS out, or putting the whole thing under non-free, and,
> > > well, it didn't look like any good solution could be found. Someone was
> > > going to write the the BIOS authors to see about getting the
> > license changed
> > > as I recall.
> > > Hopefully it'll all get worked out eventually.
> > > I'm not one of the Debian Developers, and I'm only reciting
> > this stuff from
> > > memory, so if you want more info go look at the archives.
> > > .Geoff
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Drew Northup [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 11:10 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [plex86] Debian package
> > >
> > >
> > > We'd be happy to see a sources-only package on any distro, but:
> > > 1) we aren't quite ready yet
> > > 2) it MUST be a sources package--not binaries please!!!
> > > As for the licensing issue, I believe that a sources set can be
> > included in
> > > your distro so long as it is just the sources (& the included
> > VGA BIOS). So
> > > tell them that.
> > >
> > > Drew Northup, N1XIM
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> > > > Of Hausheer,
> > Geoffrey
> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 11:07 AM
> > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > Subject: RE: [plex86] Debian package
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > While it'd be great to have a debian package, you should look at
> > > > the Debian
> > > > Developer mailing list archives for the last month or so.
> > There is a big
> > > > question as to whether plex86 can be packaged at all because of the
> > > > licensing of the VGA BIOS. Plus plex86 really isn't ready for binary
> > > > packages yet, though it is getting close (that is to say it won't be a
> > > > trivial package to make, and you'll need to rebuild it constantly
> > > > to keep it
> > > > current with CVS). Anyhow someone HAS ITP'd plex86, so you
> > might as well
> > > > head over to debian-devel and see what's going on.
> > > > .Geoff
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Dale Thatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 9:17 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: [plex86] Debian package
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone looked at building a Debian package? If not I'd be
> > > > happy to give
> > > > it
> > > > a go.
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > >
> > > > - Dale
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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